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Idea for a new meta

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March 25, 2012 6:25pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » March 25, 2012 6:25pm | Report
So I was thinking...

Twitch can jungle. So can Ezreal. My friend claims Ashe can too.

Then I also heard double Will of the Ancients is really strong, and needs an AP top and mid.

Lastly, Tanky DPSers require a lot of farm, but not really levels.

Based on this, would AP top and mid, AD carry jungle, and support/bruiser bot be stronger than what we have right now?

My theory would be to have an incredibly safe laning phase to have a stronger mid to late game because the AD carries will free farm in the jungle, bruisers/Tanky DPSs will free farm bot with support healing up all harassment, and double WotA from top and mid.

The only drawback I see is that the AD carries will have slightly less farm than having them bot, but not too much less that it's game changing.

Thoughts?
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Jungle is dirt poor dude. Thats why you put tanks that built gold per 10s. Twitch can get away with pub stomps from jungle, not much more.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » March 25, 2012 7:05pm | Report
Ya you literally get no gold for jungling unless you get godlike ganks.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » March 25, 2012 7:36pm | Report
But let's say they get philosopher's stone and/or Avarice Blade?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » March 25, 2012 7:39pm | Report
Then you have no damage items.

Great thing about tanky deeps is that their CC doesn't scale off damage items.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » March 25, 2012 7:44pm | Report
tehAsian wrote:

But let's say they get philosopher's stone and/or Avarice Blade?


Then you ain't an AD carry son. :P

AD is the most gold-dependent role in the game and needs the most items to be strong.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » March 25, 2012 7:46pm | Report
So this won't work at all?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » March 25, 2012 8:00pm | Report
Could work but I wouldn't do it if you're playing srs bsns.

We had Xenasis play jungle Ez in an inhouse and it ended up working out since he got fed.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by CasterMaster » March 25, 2012 8:06pm | Report
Basically, get fed = win. A meta that gets your team fed will usually end up being a win (considering if both teams have the same skill level and cooperation)

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Kirluu » March 25, 2012 11:17pm | Report
Wards are GG. Think of Ashe jungle. If the enemy sees you run into that riverbrush, they will most likely choose a good time, and then jump the **** out you ;3 Especially if the meta does change, in which case they might even have something like a Lee Sin in bottom lane. Or perhaps Olaf.

The thing is: By putting the AD Carry in the jungle, you hurt them very badly, since something like a wraith camp is somewhat around 80 gold total, and 4 lasthits on lane is more than that, and then also count in the running around part of jungling, and of course the squishy state you'll be in at least until mid game. Enemy counter-junglers will tear you apart, if they can surprise you in the jungle.
If you want to keep up your gold income while running jungle, you more or less have to KEEP clearing all game long, which you could do just as well (in terms of gold) at bottom lane, and then have someone in the jungle who can actually live without all of that farm, build a Wriggle's and gank all day long. If you just do one unsuccessful gank and get killed as AD Carry jungler, you recieve a major setback, since you could have used that time on farming in the jungle.
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