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Okay, this seems Phreak, but still. She has 10% Spellvamp, aoe, and cc. Why not?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by MildlyMalicious » April 6, 2012 9:03am | Report
She's just another champ that "can" jungle but that doesn't mean she "should". Most champs can jungle in the new jungle but they are better in other positions. Morgana is better in mid or as support bot. She can probably jungle, but her cs will be drastically lower than if she was in mid.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Mazuran » April 6, 2012 10:00am | Report
BloBBloB99 wrote:

Okay, this seems Phreak, but still. She has 10% Spellvamp, aoe, and cc. Why not?


As most of her damage will be magic, you'll be spamming skills to mow down minions. Morg has very high cost, high CD skills, which will leave her markedly mana-starved, even if you manage to get blue buff in the first place.
And, if they invade and steal Blue from you, you're screwed unless you go AD Morg. Which is a bit pants really.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Phoenix0000ff » April 6, 2012 11:02am | Report
I tried it recently it's not bad. Just try building a team comp around her and you got a deal.

She has some weaknesses though

Mobility
skill shot dependent ganks (pre 6)
needs blue buff (can do without it but it's not the same game)

It seems people here just want to shoot any idea down rather than think it out. The potential to snowball out of the jungle is higher than lane. 1-2 successful ganks can make a pretty rough jungler to deal with.

My only gripe once again is how to get her to be effective in a team. I can see her coming in midfight and getting an ult on 2-3 people but she seems much more like a hold my lane champ rather than gank it.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Phoenix0000ff » April 6, 2012 11:06am | Report
Mazuran wrote:

if they invade and steal Blue from you, you're screwed unless you go AD Morg


She doesn't need blue buff, it will just hurt her ganks. Jungling isn't that hard you know.
Also just going to say her level 1 fight isn't bad. In a lot of cases it might not be a good idea to invade her.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by BloBBloB99 » April 6, 2012 2:07pm | Report
I'm def gonna try atleast!

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Everytime somebody picks jungle Morgana in my team I'm like


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » April 6, 2012 3:03pm | Report
Other than the really skillshot dependent ganks, there's not enough farm in the jungle for her. She has to gank a lot. And I mean a lot.
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She has moves that don't need scaling
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Mazuran » April 7, 2012 4:17am | Report

She has moves that don't need scaling


So... You're suggesting playing her as an auto-attack champ, leaving her skills to be used as pure CC?
Not impossible, just not as good imo.

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I tried it recently it's not bad. Just try building a team comp around her and you got a deal.

She has some weaknesses though

Mobility
skill shot dependent ganks (pre 6)
needs blue buff (can do without it but it's not the same game)

It seems people here just want to shoot any idea down rather than think it out. The potential to snowball out of the jungle is higher than lane. 1-2 successful ganks can make a pretty rough jungler to deal with.

My only gripe once again is how to get her to be effective in a team. I can see her coming in midfight and getting an ult on 2-3 people but she seems much more like a hold my lane champ rather than gank it.


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Building a team comp around one character means that if for whatever reason that player struggles or fails, the whole team will suffer. Also, you'll only really be able to do that in a 5-man premade, in soloqueue that's just not gonna happen.

Mobility is an issue with Morg, you can alleviate this with Runes and Masteries slightly. Couple this with a boots&Pots start and this shouldn't really be an issue.

Skill shot dependent ganks shouldn't be an issue, just practice real hard.

And if Morg doesn't get Blue, her clear time is gonna be slow. Real slow. She won't be able to spam skills as much to farm. She'll need to bluepill before ganking to regen some mana. The list goes on...
The option of the enemy team *not* invading isn't there anymore. After M5 and their hyper-aggressive jungle strategy, people have just copied them. Also, if they've got Morg, and you know she's jungling, why the hell wouldn't you invade and steal Blue?
The point you make about her Lvl 1 teamfight potential is good, but seeing as if you're in the jungle you'll be taking Tormented Soil at Lvl 1, imo that potential just isn't there.

I'm not meaning to shoot down the idea out of hand; the OP asked "Why not?", and I answered his question. By all means try it and let us know how it goes (remember, pics/vids or it didn't happen).
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