Ryze Counters

[quote=Searz][quote=CasterMaster] I think if you put [[ryze]] and [[swain]] in a similar situation, they'd do about the same.[/quote] Pretty much. I think they're pretty equal in power. But I do think Swain would beat Ryze in lane. Not by any big margin, but he is overall stronger in lane.[/quote]

[quote=Vitigam]What do you think about [[brand]]? Is he a counter to [[ryze]]?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]He's not really a counter, he's just a little stronger in lane than Ryze.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I heard Brand and Xerath are the only champs that sort of counter Ryze[/quote]

[quote=BarbJ]Ryze is a DPS caster. Theory is to burst him for more than he can deal, and leave before he can deal enough to make up the difference. Annie with her stun up? Get him while you're outside his range, and use Q-W? Galio? Slow him, use Gust, Shield yourself to absorb / reduce anything he throws. Viktor? He's about the same as Swain, so maybe just a good lane matchup.[/quote]

[quote=Vitigam]^Annie, I don't think she can counter [[ryze]]. Without her tibbers stun, [[ryze]] would destroy her.[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999]I think [[Leblanc]] would be pretty good. Unless she uses her W, she out ranges [[Ryze]], and can silence him for a long time with [[Sigil of silence]] > [[Mimic]] > [[Ethreal Chains]]. Here are some others I think: [[Lux]]: She has super range, plus she can just snare Ryze if he comes close. [[Morgana]]: Pretty much the same as Lux, but she also has that CC blocking shield. Makes it impossible to snare. [[Talon]]: Before Ryze finishes his [[Frozen Heart]], since he has a silence, which gives damage amplification, a slow, and his passive gives him more damage from the slow. Can also get away using his ult. [[Ahri]]: Mostly because she has true damage, which really hurts Ryze. [[Cassiopeia]]: Personally, I think this is a skill matchup. If you can predict her attacks, you can just dodge. Plus, building an early [[Negatron Cloak]] reduces quite a bit of her damage. [[Malzahar]]: It's true that MR really hurts his [[Malefic Visions]], but all his spells except for [[Malefic Visions]] have longer range and do quite a bit of damage. Plus, he has a silence and suppress. [[Orianna]]: I think that with constant pokes with [[Command: Attack]] she can wear Ryze down. [[Xerath]]: Super range and a stun. [[Zilean]]: He can double [[time bomb]] just outside of [[Overload]] range, and he has his ultimate to keep him alive when Ryze does get to him.[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=Jpikachu1999] I think [[Leblanc]] would be pretty good. Unless she uses her W, she out ranges [[Ryze]], and can silence him for a long time with [[Sigil of silence]] > [[Mimic]] > [[Ethreal Chains]]. [/quote] Leblanc is really powerful against Ryze, she can stay out of his range and still land her burst without taking any damage, thanks to her outstanding mobility and silence. But as we all know Ryze builds tanky, which makes Leblanc less usefull against him the more items Ryze gets. But she is still one of the best picks against him, with potential to completely shut him down during the laning phase.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Yeah the problem is Ryze is going to rush Banshee's Veil which is pretty much Leblanc's kryptonite.[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999]I figured as much, but she still has ridiculous burst and a 4 second silence. Plus, [[Deathfire Grasp]] + [[Void Staff]].[/quote]