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Two Junglers

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February 1, 2012 5:00pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » February 1, 2012 5:00pm | Report
What if...

You had a 1v1 top lane. (Support can go here?)

A 1v1 mid lane. (Or here?)

And a solid 1v2 bot lane.

Then you get 2 really stronk junglers that are also good at counterjungling(or just counterjungling, like Shaco). They split the whole jungle through mid lane, and constantly deny the other jungler his farm.

So far, the best team comp I could think of using this would be: Top Gangplank, Mid Morgana(Also semi-supporting, Bot Yorick, and Lee Sin/ Skarner/ Shyvana/ Shaco junglers.

This way you get 5 solo lanes of exp, and the other team only gets 1 if their jungler decides to lane.

If the other jungler decides to gank, Morgana can spell-shield away, Gangplank can have a global slow, and Yorick is a pretty solid 1v2 pick, so there aren't really any worries. If the other jungler wants to jungle, you get a strong 1v1 champ + Gangplank's ult to kill him.

Then you win teamfights because you have a level and gold advantage. Having 2 junglers also can have their wriggles perma-ward both Baron and Dragon.
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First, you can't guarantee a team comp. Second, You don't have a level and gold advantage, you have two people missing out on XP (if you think you're going to get all the camps, you're flat-out wrong). Third, you have no late-game carry. And fourth, you have one lane that's going to be way behind on gold by virtue of getting at least partially zoned in a 2v1. This last one is 100% guaranteed, unless the enemy team consists of total ******s. What you'll have is even levels spread out through an overleveled but underfarmed bot lane, a normal mid lane, a normal top lane, and two underleveled junglers, who are probably somewhat underfarmed as well. And honestly, if the enemy team just decided to just screw the meta and go 2v1 in two lanes, I guarantee one of the lanes would be weak enough to get completely zoned and lose lane 2v1, defeating the entire purpose this idea was conceived with.

Counterjungling with lane support is super effective because it both gives the lanes xp and cs advantage, and gives the enemy jungler xp and cs disadvantage (and buff steals prevent ganks and slow enemy farming even further), but dedicated counterjungling of the kind you're suggesting doesn't work because it's taking 2 people to steal the already pathetic farm of one person.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » February 1, 2012 5:18pm | Report
tehAsian wrote:

And a solid 1v2 bot lane.


Oops, there goes the plan, there is no champion solidly capable of 1v2.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Fox Rage » February 1, 2012 5:26pm | Report
DuffTime wrote:



Oops, there goes the plan, there is no champion solidly capable of 1v2.


Vlad, Rumble, Garen, Renekton and Warwick would like to have a word with you.

It could work if you put the AD carry top (good solo top ad carry : Corki, Vayne and Graves), AP mid, and one of the champ I listed in bot lane. They are more champions that can do 1v2 without too much problem, but I can't think of more atm.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by example1013 » February 1, 2012 5:29pm | Report
Fox Rage wrote:



Vlad, Rumble, Garen, Renekton and Warwick would like to have a word with you.


Pantheon and [insert character here] would like to have a word with you.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Fox Rage » February 1, 2012 5:30pm | Report
Why do you think I only listed champions with insane sustain (or, in Rumble's case, a spammable shield). To be able to survive tower dives. Just make sure to ahev a pink ward in river AT ALL TIME, and the 2 jungle can just gank a lot, there you go.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by jhoijhoi » February 1, 2012 5:50pm | Report
DuffTime wrote:

Oops, there goes the plan, there is no champion solidly capable of 1v2.

Malz, Morg, Cass, Nasus.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Nighthawk » February 1, 2012 5:51pm | Report
nasus 1 v 2?

only if enemies are dumb...

Morg legit can though, Malz & Cass, not so sure.


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