Varus skill order...

[quote=Slappiz][quote=tehAsian] I don't actually play AD Carries extensively, so I don't have actual estimates. Also, the 'super nuke' isn't as high as you'd think. Taking [[corki]] as an example, let's say he has 2 [[doran's blade]]s at level 9 (his only health items). He has 375 + 82(9) health at level 9, which is 1113 Health. Taking Resists out of the equation, [[blighted quiver]] would take out 15% of it from the bonus damage portion. .15 * 1113 = 166.95, or 167 Bonus magic damage, with 26 * 3 = 78 damage from procs. This translates to about 245 total bonus magic damage. [[piercing arrow]] will do 65 + 160% of your total AD at full charge, 43 + 100% just firing it. At level 9, let's say you have 2x [[doran's blade]]s, [[boots of speed]], and a [[b. f. sword]], roughly 3000 gold. [[varus]] has 46 + 27 = 73 AD at level 9. With the above items, you will have 73 + 20 + 45 = 138 AD. Over those 3 attacks and the bonus proc, you will do 245 + 138 + 43 = 426 total damage, up to 509 damage with a fully charged Q (rounded up). What if we take [[piercing arrow]] first? Taking into consideration the same items against the same [[corki]], you would do 6% of his health + 14 * 3 magic damage, which comes to about 109 magic damage. [[piercing arrow]] will do 143 + 100% of AD, which is 143 + 138 = 281 damage, up to 215 + 160% of AD, which is 215 + 221 = 436 damage. So if you use the Q to JUST proc 3 stacks on W... You do 426 Damage with [[blighted quiver]] first as opposed to 390 with [[piercing arrow]] first. But if you use the fully charged Q, you're comparing 436 + 109 = 545 damage with [[piercing arrow]] first, as compared to 509 with [[blighted quiver]] first. [/quote] You don't even consider the high cool down on [[piercing arrow]], or the fact that you can trigger 3x[[blighted quiver]] full stacks in a successful combo, which ain't that hard to pull off when you got [[Chain of Corruption]]..[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999]Or the fact that it increases your auto attack damage, and that you can trigger 3x Blight stacks 3 times, because of your 3 other abilities.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Another thing is, Arrow can miss, Blight can't.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]@Slappiz I just did the math for the basic combo thing :P [[blighted quiver]] first would give more overall dps over a longer timeframe, but [[piercing arrow]] will give slightly more burst, I think. But considering the lowered cooldown of Q every level, it might actually give more harass because you can proc Blight every ~8 seconds as opposed to 18 seconds (optimally speaking). @Jpikachu I actually did. It's not auto-attack damage either, it's on-hit like [[wit's end]]. @NicknameMy Arrow can hit stuff from 1500 range, Auto-attacks can't ;D But I've found out unlike [[caitlyn]]'s Q that has a 1 second delay, [[piercing arrow]] is much more difficult to avoid up close because it's instantly fired, and you aren't limited to a certain angle after casting it. It's really deceptive -.-[/quote]

[quote=CellOne][quote] But considering the lowered cooldown of Q every level, it might actually give more harass because you can proc Blight every ~8 seconds as opposed to 18 seconds (optimally speaking).[/quote] True, but it shouldn't really matter. If you triggered 3 full stacks of blight perfectly, there should be no more health on their carry... otherwise something's wrong ^^[/quote]

[quote=iownedya]I see Keondre is now an editor :< Soraka and Alistar are the second best laning partners for [[Varus]]. The best is [[Janna]]. She sees him charging an arrow, why not do an extra 56 damage? Shield him with a perfect tornado = perfect shot and massive damage. Knocking enemies INTO [[Varus]]'s ultimate, etc.[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=iownedya] I see Keondre is now an editor :< [/quote] That's because she is hawt![/quote]

[quote=Klausenheim]I prefer a harder burst poke to sustained damage when I'm in lanes. If you think you are going to be doing sustained dps instead, then build accordingly.[/quote]

[quote=Minkey]If you have aiming skills, take q, if not, take w.[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=Minkey] If you have aiming skills, take q, if not, take w. [/quote] you still need to aim for W to go off... with Q and E[/quote]