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[14.7] TheMistCollector's Ultimate Senna Guide - SUPP ADC & FASTING

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Btw I don't know if you've noticed it or not but you can proc phase rush with an AA_q/q_AA if you have bc.

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I did not think of that! I knew that BC helped Eclipse proc in one hit, but it never occurred to me that it also worked with other effects that need x instances of damage. It's a cool interaction, but I don't really think it has potential for anything viable.

Yeah right
I just wanted to try a for fun full Ms build and I searched for phase rush. Their was something about this in Reddit so I tried it and it worked.
Although I feel like it can be good in the late game but it has almost no use in lane.

When playing against a lux matchup (or other control mage. xerath, velkoz, morgana, zyra,(sera)). Be really catious when trying to trade. One misstep can lead to your demise. becuase autoing "snarees" senna for what feels liek ages

I have just read your guide. Really good.
I have now played Senna worth of 320K MP and i think that I can add a topic or two.

when using the aa + Q combo it's ideal (especailly if can applied from trading)that the Q cancels half of the auto animation when she does not have more AS than she has early on.

Prior when i had to go squishy killer i also still went for fleet. But commet is an interesting angle i would have to try. I do still think that zombie ward with Umbral has good synergy. Even though Mist do say that U-hunter is not worth it I do still think that it can change some games especially when you do go the lethality route. Therefore axium also plays nice into this with another lethality item like collector.

If you experience that this causes mana problems I would suggest running tier. I do only play senna in the supportingrole. I cannot speek for fasting or ADC senna

do we still go wardstone ? it doesnt amplifie our stats anymore and cost as much as a low cost tank item

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Wardstone is still good. I never build it because of the stats, simply because losing the pink ward slot is really bad for your team.

we'll have to wait and see when they update it for 14.2

Hi, i think your item sets still not working. Could you fix it?

Work for me

i tried using microsoft edge and operagx and in both of it it only shows a bunch of broken code stuff

Hi, your item sets for support lethality and support hybrid (maybe others too idk) are not working anymore

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Hi! should be fixed now i think, sorry for taking so long!

Hello! I just wonder why we build static on senna? For waveclear or just because the component are great on her?

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Waveclear. In a vacuum Kraken is a better Noonquiver item for combat only, but Senna's biggest problem is waveclear, and now that Shiv is a decent item, i prefer it over Kraken.

And wont next patch stormrazor nerf impact senna? I dont feel that item is an absolut best in slot but it was a great item that gived a lot of damage to senna because of the bonus ad scaling and I dont feel like the mobility is good enough to justify the item.

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Yes, after the Stormrazor nerfs, the item hasn't felt good as core. I still think it's a good capstone item but def not a core anymore.

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Which role do you think Senna is best for? Thank you for this amazing guide! <3

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The most consistent for SoloQ is Support by far.
Fasting is not a real thing in soloQ unless you're Masters+, and even then you can't consistently play it.
ADC is not in a great spot right now, even though she has pretty good items that define her place in the meta right now, she struggles against most meta ADCs.

But in terms of actual strength, Fasting is really strong right now. She has good pairs and because Last Chapter got buffed, she is even more unstoppable in lane now.

Hi. , when should i build stormrazor? i fell like it has the same purpose as RFC

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Oh yeah, i forgot to add that to the guide. my bad, i will update it next patch.
But basically, Stormrazor is a good "capstone" item, if you don't need anything else after your cores. It scales with 60% bonus AD, so if you build this pretty late, you will deal a lot of damage with it and the MS is always nice.

bro, congrats for ur perfect guide.
Im low elo and im trying to get gold playing adc, i just want to know how to build crit/lethality wth the new patch and the update of the new items, are u going to change the builds? Appreciate it man. Greetings from Spain <3

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I'm glad you like it!

For your question, deciding between Crit and Lethality should be the same (crit if you have enough peel, need to kill tanks or you're against an ADC who struggles against hypercarries, Lethality if you're against a better hypercarry, the enemy team is squishy or you want to focus more on utility), but honestly Youmuus is such a broken item right now i would try to play it every game.

Also, builds have already been updated for 13.10.

Still building FoN on support hybrid? I feel like the nerf hit that item too much and since it's way harder to proc it you will never have the time to get the full stack on senna. And even if you fully proc it it's worth only on champions with a lot of MR now. I wonder if Abyssal is a better idea since it's way cheaper and give the same stats even if the passive is less useful (even though everyone deals magic damage now). But anyway I think Wit's End is just better overall even though the price sucks.

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I agree that FoN is considerably weaker now, but i don't think there's a better item if you're against 5 AP champs. The other options don't give that much value (Maw would be the 2nd best option here, but it's too much damage you're trading for resistances IMO, specially since you also should have Wit's End in those scenarios too).

Before Senna's buff, I used to play with Lethal Tempo. I think now it's more playable as ADC.

I feel like I'm running out of mana quite fast with Umbral Glaive + Duskblade build (especially when pairing with Boots of Lucidity) given so much AH lower her abilities cooldown, have you ever faced with this problem? Do you think Tear/Manamune is needed in AH Lethality build?

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First of all, i don't think Boots of Lucidity are a good purchase on Senna, given she is an immobile marksmen and she has slow abilities and AAs, i think defensive boots (swiftness, tabi or mercs) are a must for this champion.
Now for the main point, i haven't found myself having mana issues with that build, neither with Manaflow nor PoM. I can't really tell what you're doing wrong besides Lucidity Boots. Maybe you're using abilities out of combat a bit too much (Qing every wave multiple times, Qing your allies for only heal, Eing randomly, or not stacking Manaflow Band correctly), or maybe you just miss a lot of abilities so the mana-you-spend/impact-you-have ratio is uneven. Either way i believe Manamune should not be bought in that build because you don't need the extra mana, i have played this champion since forever and i've never felt like i needed the item (besides it's a huge tempo loss).