Ask a Diamond [Week 3: Top lane]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=MissMaw] When should you take [[teleport]]? [/quote] Quite simple: when you don't think you're gonna kill your lane opponent or if you need it to splitpush / survive a hard lane. [quote=Dychronius] How do you beat [[darius]] as someone like [[irelia]] or [[jax]]. I hate playing against [[darius]] more than I hate playing against [[renekton]]. [/quote] Try to avoid extended trades so he cannot get multiple bleed stacks on you. As Jax / Irelia you can just stun him when he hooks you and get out. It also helps to get some additional health early game so his ult won't take down half of your HP. On another note, he's really immobile and susceptible to ganks which is his main weakness. Ask for ganks early and shut him down that way.[/quote]

[quote=oxide110][quote=MissMaw] When should you take [[teleport]]? [/quote] Always[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]If [[renekton]] were to get nerfed hardcore (like [[rengar]] nerfed)...what would most likely rise from the ashes?[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]when to help the rest of the team and when to split push? i always feel more inclined to just push top lane versus join in with the team until the first towers are down.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=Darealone] If [[renekton]] were to get nerfed hardcore (like [[rengar]] nerfed)...what would most likely rise from the ashes? [/quote] [[Teemo]][/quote]

[quote=Joxuu][quote=Darealone] If [[renekton]] were to get nerfed hardcore (like [[rengar]] nerfed)...what would most likely rise from the ashes? [/quote] [[Jax]][/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Joxuu] [quote=Darealone] If [[renekton]] were to get nerfed hardcore (like [[rengar]] nerfed)...what would most likely rise from the ashes? [/quote] [[Jax]] [/quote] That's not really 'from the ashes'. Jax already is a tier-1 top laner.[/quote]

[quote=ShortyHUN][quote=Darealone] If [[renekton]] were to get nerfed hardcore (like [[rengar]] nerfed)...what would most likely rise from the ashes? [/quote] Was that really a nerf? His playstyle changed a little bit, but i don't feel like he's weaker o_O[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=ShortyHUN] [quote=Darealone] If [[renekton]] were to get nerfed hardcore (like [[rengar]] nerfed)...what would most likely rise from the ashes? [/quote] Was that really a nerf? His playstyle changed a little bit, but i don't feel like he's weaker o_O [/quote] He went from being a popular pick even in competitive play to seeing no play whatsoever.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] @GMD I'm not a top main but: Renekton you just can't outtrade. Best shot would be to get some armor early on and run [[teleport]] and try to beat him after 6 since he doesn't spike as hard as J4/Darius do. Shyvana you can easily outtrade with short trades because she 100% relies on DPS with her W. Even though she has no mana, she has low health sustain so if you stick with short trades and don't blow all your mana on trades, you'll come out on top. @Blitzball J4 top is okay-ish. He can work top but has a lot of bad matchups. Zed has 0 lane presence till he gets BORK and LW but once he has he becomes a monster splitpusher. Not 100% sure about nidalee. [/quote] Yeah personally I haven't had much trouble against [[Shyvana]] as J4 but just wondering if there's some general guidelines. Personally I think J4 is decent but most of the popular matchups aren't that favourable indeed. [[Zed]], I think, is actually pretty strong top. His laning phase is solid and post 5 you have good ranged harassment.[/quote]