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Cho'Gath Build Guide by Hijitori

Top [11.21] Addition to Balori's Ap Cho'God! Threats & tips

Top [11.21] Addition to Balori's Ap Cho'God! Threats & tips

Updated on October 25, 2021
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Runes: Standard runes

1 2
Sorcery
Arcane Comet
Nimbus Cloak
Absolute Focus
Scorch

Domination
Cheap Shot
Ultimate Hunter
Bonus:

+9 Adaptive (5.4 AD or 9 AP)
+9 Adaptive (5.4 AD or 9 AP)
+15-140 HP (lvls 1-18)

Spells:

Flash and Ignite
LoL Summoner Spell: Flash

Flash

LoL Summoner Spell: Ignite

Ignite

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Win 52%
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Champion Build Guide

[11.21] Addition to Balori's Ap Cho'God! Threats & tips

By Hijitori
About Me
My nickname is Hijitori and I began my adventure on Summoner's Rift in season 4. I peaked in Diamond as a #30 Cho'gath main EUNE. For this moment I'm in Platinum and have 600 000 Maestry Points on Cho.

"Remember that you got the power to overpower them all. As long as you play with focus and to try to play as good as you can, you are going to always be victorious in the end." - Balori

Introduction
Why I created this guide? It's simple. I love Cho'gath - especially Balori's style and after watching Balori's videos and playing many games with his build and gamestyle, I wanted to give you some tips and rules that also Balori didn't mention in his Guide. Besides, I am studying replays to understand how champions work with/against Ap Cho and note it down here.

Link to Balori's Guide - https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/full-magic-penetration-build-by-top-1-chogath-in-the-world-470949

"How did I miss that?"

Ap Cho Basic Info
- Ap Cho is like an assassin mage with lots of burst damage in mid game and a poking mage in late game.
- Ap Cho is squishy. Even if you have around 5000 HP in late, you still will be easy to kill for enemies in late game.
- AP Cho in the right hands is more fun and more influential than tank Cho.
- AP Cho is like Rengar - he needs to use bushes a lot (+ Fog of War this time).
- Every Q that you miss is a high responsibility, whether it's during laning phase or late team fights. Very often if you miss your Q - you are dead or so is your teammate.
- You will be depending on proper movement and using Fog of War in duels and team fights as well, this means using fog of war a lot.
- You need patience. You will often wait in a bush to get an ambush ready for low hp / squishy enemy champions - you will see waves of creeps dying next to you and you will need to bear that.
- People will like to flame / blame you, as they like to call this "a troll build" and not take responsibility for their own mistakes.

"If you can't handle the toxicity from your teammates, just mute them and focus on playing. If you can sustain their toxicity just leave this like that and try to calm them down."

Top lane vs mid lane
Top lane:
+ usually easier matchups (f.e. Leblanc/Yasuo mobility and champs hard to reach like Xerath/Anivia on mid)
+ easy Q hit thanks to bushes
- lack of tank in team (unless jungler or support takes it)
- potential toxicity "troll build" etc

Mid lane:
+ good control of Dragons and Herolds with feast
- low mobility to roam compared to other mid laners

Note: let's not ignore the fact that mid is more challenging and influential lane than top lane and whether it is an advantage or disadvantage - it's up to you.

"We need to always focus on farming. No matter what, no matter against who you are playing, you're always going to focus on farming."

First levels / laning phase
Cho's Q is very powerful for invades or counter invades. When the game starts you have got about 110 seconds before minions begin fighting, so you have got enough time to follow your team, help with invade, counter invade or just defending your jungler's camps. Here's an example of helping your team mates in countering invade and then still having enough time to get back to your line;

Now let's follow Balori's strategies. Try to reach top lane bushes before your enemy. Get to the bush closer to your base / middle bush on red team and to the middle bush on blue team (the distance is not the same on both sides) and try to use Q to last hit the first 3 minions and hit enemy champion at the same time.
If those 3 minions seperate (bcs enemy full pushed them) - use your Q on enemy champion and then try to aa all the 3 minions instantly, so he can't punish you (because you just CCed and poked him with Q)
Your Q costs you always 60 mana and is always 7 sec CD. Focus on finishing creeps with Q who are too far and dangerously for you to aa them. Try to kill minions and poke your enemy at the same time, so it saves you some mana (passive + poke)
Level 2 E ability is the moment of getting a chance for first blood if enemy underestimates you and forgets that you have got your Ignite and wave of minions near to help when he attacks you (your E damage on level 2 is amazing).

You can push waves faster by moving through minions to group them in one spot to hit all at the same time. Here's an example of full push to immediately take free plates;

"We need to always focus on farming. No matter what, no matter against who you are playing, you're always going to focus on farming."

Combos
Q > Aa > E > W > aa > R
This is an effective combo. I picked it up from some challenger players. F.E:
When you ambush enemy who is at distance you are gonna try to do:
Q > W (can be as prolonged as possible) > E > R or Q > W (can be as prolonged as possible) > AA > E > R when you have enough time or you know that your enemy can't escape you.

"Right now he thinks he's more powerful because I'm playing passive and right now I am going to kill him because of that."

Swaping with bot lane time
You usually want to swap with your bot lane when u get the first turret.
Once you swap with your bot lane, try to get into the bot lane bushes so the enemy bot lane can't see you, to make enemy adc a surprise ambush attack and kill him.
Be careful as it depends on enemy support. Personally I am very careful when it comes to f.e. Morgana (Q/W) or Lulu (R).
Remember you are gonna need Oracle Lens when you swap with Bot lane.

"I can't believe that I died one against two. I need to practise more then."

Optimal ULTIMATE usage
- If you are far behind and you can't kill anybody, feast on minions 6 times to gain free stacks for extra hp.
- Use your Ultimate to "ks". The stacks make it double-gold so it is worth.
- Use your Ultimate when you notice your top laner is roaming at the moment (f.e. he is on the way to mid lane or pushing mid tower). Eat minion for a free minion stack, you will have about 30 or more next seconds before he comes back.
- Don't save your Ultimate "for later", always eat an enemy champ when you get the chance!
- Stack gives you size, damage (on E and R) and 120 hp PERMAMENTLY, which makes it worth around additional 400 gold so it is similar to getting double kill!
- Eat creeps before you recall. There will pass about 30 seconds before you return and you will have your Ultimate almost fully back and ready to use.
- Use your Ultimate on any creep nearby when you are going to die and your team can't help you. It's an impasse, but mistakes happen to everyone.
- When your team is killing Dragon, Herold or Baron - always eat it, even if your jungler wants to smite it. Ulting epic monsters counts the same as champion stacks.
- Remember that Cho'Gath's Ultimate has got about 0.3 seconds delay. It can be the missing split second sometimes (easy to feel later on)
- Remember that on 6th level you will deal about 1050 damage to monsters and on 16th level you will deal about 1500 damage with your Ultimate.

"Before we go back - always full push. You need to force them to lose as much gold as possible. So before you go back to your base to get your items full push the lane, force the tower to kill all the creeps and you're going to be just fine."

Advanced FEAST info!
- Herold summoned by enemy team gives you permanent stack.
- Wukong's clone gives you permanent stack.
- Shaco's clone gives you permanent stack.
- Le'Blanc's clone gives you permanent stack.
- Yorick's ultimate Monster doesn't give you permanent stack.
- Killing someone with activated Guardian Angel doesn't give you stack.
- Killing Anivia while she turns into an egg (passive) doesn't give you any stack.


"Just relax guys, just relax."

Team fights
You are not a frontliner anymore. Lots of AP cho'gath players have the wrong feeling of being tanky. Even if you have 6000 hp, you are still squishy and easy to kill for anyone (especially after getting a cc f.e. from or ). Stay behind, poke and use Fog of War to surprise your enemies. Eventually, when enemies are poked down enough, go in and use your Ultimate on the right target.

"I made one mistake and right now our teammates will make sure that it's going to be impossible to get carried."

Tips
- Without mana you are useless. Go back or save at least 60 mana for Q just in case.
- During laning phase try to hit with Q enemy champion and kill low hp minions at the same time (instantly gives you with Doran's rings about 30 mana)
- During laning phase you can hit enemy champion instead of low hp minion, so he gets knock and slow and you can last hit minion by aa. (enemy gets dmg as well)
- Farming is the most important thing, even if you don't have kills, but you have 80% possible creeps you will be fed and strong. Imagine if you didn't miss a single creep. You would be always fed and carry. So try to achieve as many minions as you can (there are possible to have about 108 minions in 10 minute if you don't fail).
- When you are in the base waiting for hp and mana regen - stand on the edge of the buying zone and if you have 2 Doran rings already, you should leave base as soon as you regen about 80-90% hp or 50% mana (depending on what you need). Rings will recover your mana really fast, regen and passive will recover your hp back fast - every second is worth its weight in gold!
- Don't roam before getting at least the first turret. Cho'gath is bad at roaming, rather focus on farming, improving and punishing enemy top laner instead.
- There are a lot of champions who will outscale you after getting 5/6 full item (Vayne, Yasuo, Kayle). Around 5th full item your build's power decreases with passing time. You will be getting more vulnerable and will need to struggle more to get a kill - when there will be more team fights - there will be more vision ruining your ambush attack aswell. When you reach your 5th item, it's time to try to end the game, before your FOOD catches you up.
- While trying to catch your food - don't use your Q right on it, but use your Q behind the enemy champion. He might dodge that, however he will be forced to go backwards into your W or R ability range.
- Your E ability resets your Auto-Attack. You can use that f.e. to push tower or destroy enemy's vision faster.
- Cho's E ability gives him 50 range for next 3 AA. You can use this sometimes through narrow walls to f.e. assist in a kill or destroy enemy's vision.
- Before going back to get your items try to full push the minions, so enemy will lose creeps under his turret.
- Save flash and Ultimate to be able to kill squishy back liners (f.e. Vayne, Syndra)
- Be aware that Cho's W and R have about 0.2-0.4 sec usage delay (animation). You will feel this when you face enemies who are good at dodging skillshots (there is a way to cancel Cho's Ultimate - if enemy flashes away at the same time you use your Ultimate, it will cancel and you won't get the stack).
- When enemy is recolling, bait him that you are not gonna use your Q on him and wait for the very last second to hit your Q, so he will think he will make it to recall.
- When full pushing the lane, you can move through coming minions to bait them in your Q circle.
- Sometimes you can use just your IGNITE for escape because of the Nimbus Cloak extra speed and you can also use it to catch enemy champion.


"This mistake will cost us a lot of creeps. Not the death, don't worry about that. Just worry about the farm."

Items against Cho
This is a dream item for Cho to play against. It often ends up in free kills for you, no hp, no mr only wave clear, but cho still has his Q W E to clear minions easily

This are nightmares items for Cho to play against. F.e. taking this item can punish you, kite and dodge run through your Q easily. Also the mercury reduces your cc.

Although it isn't a big problem, it might give your opponent enough sustain to heal your Q damage after a few minion hits, f.e.

Using Zhonya usually gives you free Q hit, because you know where to use it.

This is a pretty annoying item against Cho, because killing opponent when it's active will cancel feast stack. At least you can now time your Q perfectly for the moment enemy becomes vulnerable, just like

"He's going to play with Tiamat. The worst mistake ever and we're going to just destroy him because of that."

Short video guides/examples

Try to use your aa reset on E when fighting, taking a turret or vision, example;





Sometimes when you are low hp look for nearby low minions to heal yourself, example;




You can use fog of war to survive in a hard situtation with your Q, example;





Using fog of war anywhere with walls (no bushes), example;





Optimal dealing with enemy bot lane 1v2 after top-bot swap, example; (if they are seperated try to focus and instantly delete only one player - adc or supp - depends on champs)





Using bushes for easy Q hit + double kill example;





Another example of using fog of war - but in enemy's perspective;





Time your level up 6 to surprise your enemy when possible;





An example of combo with Alistar (one of you has to initiate);





Using Q slightly in front of your enemy and forcing him to go backwards where you want him if he dodges that;





Example of bullying your enemy by preventing him from farming etc;



Care about your huge hit box! You think growing bigger with stacks is only fun? Then watch this video what might happen;


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