Interesting build. I think I might try it out when I get home. Thanks for the guide!

as second or third it is an option but i like to use it 1st so it stacks right than and when i need that hp i have it and that regen too... it's important right in the beggining because you can survive much more in a part of the game that anyone is too strong yet... and since you have doran's ring and some ability power runes and you're passive to give you AP you're strong enough to kill those week chars at the beggining and even be in a lane alone killing 2 enemys if your lane partner dies... i'll post a video when i got time and you'll be clarified of my ideas

hmm Warmog´s as second item ?

I think you dont need that hp so early maybe as 3rd item ?

I will try this build later and let you know :=)

my math is not that off... karma has only 2k hp at lvl 18 and even if it has close to 3 with rylai's cepter or whatever it's still the low hp and the most likely to aim... with this build her passive gets even better and karma survives more time... the damage with this build is also very good for assisting cause that's why supports were made... to assist! If you check support builds have for example spirit visage and zhonya's hourglass or other items... i just looked for 2 tank items and 3 AP items so karma can make a good damage and survive more than the usual AP chars that are always the 1st dying for being stronger and low hp... try this build a few games and comment later

I think your math is off. Karma, has close to 3K HP at lv 18. If you support well, you won't need the Warmog's Armor. Karma has even better damaging power with AP instead of this... odd thing you came up with. I'm not saying it's horrid just, something I wouldn't play with.

it's important to keep alive to support your team... with an AP build you will have 1800 hp while the others have 3000/4000 so you won't support cause you'll be the 1st target. If you think it's bad try for yourself and if you made a better score tell me...

and answering Chaotic Bliss... i didn't say it was a tank... i said half tank... and i may not have items with magic resist but since i have more than 3500 hp and my skill offers me magic resist and armor and since i can tank turrets and even team fights i can consider it a half tank... i will make a video as soon as i can to show the power of this build... even yesterday i fought against an AP Karma with a Rabadon's DeathCap + Void Staff + Archangel's Staff and i was only with Warmog's Armor + Rabadon's Deathcap + Will of the Ancients... I had half it's ability power but since i had plus hp i could kill it without losing even a quarter of my hp.

And yes my build is survival because that's important... anyone supports without surviving as i said before and i say it again if you're the 1st dying you won't support anything... and haveing a lot of hp helps Karma's passive because you lose a lot of hp but you have so much that you don't even care and your AP is growing...

One more thing... You earn a lot of hp regen + spell vamp + your healing skill + your neverending hp + spirit visage passive (it grows your regeneration effects in 20%)... i don't believe that this is bad for surviving much more than an AP Karma

To finish you have a lot of AP (350 +/-) that i think it's enough to assist and kill a lot and Karma has an excelent survival capacity in all her skills and passive... The rest it's in the runes... and i bet with this build your deaths will be reduced in a half!

Try and then comment ;) don't comment what you don't know

Learning to play wont stop the enemy team from being smart enough to focus you, making Warmog's extremely useful, so you don't die before you can support your team. This build is great, and gets my +1 vote.

u buy warmog to stay alive?!!?!?.... maybe learn play instead.

I dont think you cant call your self a tank... High HP and Zhonya's dont make you a tank. Karma is one of the better support in means of dealing dmg while protecting the team, but tank isnt something Id call her.

You built her for survival, not tanking. There is a difference. Can you initate a fight? throw down some kind of CC on carries? Can you save your team while keeping the other team locked down?

show me you can do those things, and Ill say tank.

Aside from that, I like this. Ive seen that Karma has great farming power and even better support. By making her a lil more bulky you can provide more for the team. Also, I see her as the AP Olaf due to her passive. The less health she has the more AP she has. More life allows for longer lane time while having great AP.

Will is nice to increase healing. It works well if you have other casters on your team too. Either way its a great item.

Over all great build +1.

i like that build !