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League of Legends Rune: Greater Quintessence of Magic Penetration

Greater Quintessence of Magic Penetration

LoL Rune: Greater Quintessence of Magic Penetration

Purchase Cost: 1025
+2.01 magic penetration


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Matuka (5) | February 25, 2013 11:00am
Magic Penetration with Elise? Nothing stops it.
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Kynicho (1) | May 4, 2012 6:11am
This rune needs to be updated it now gives you +2.18 look it up if you don't believe me. Just thought it'd be good to have this rune updated :)
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Drain (5) | December 26, 2011 8:37pm
PsiGuard wrote:

No, you don't. Flat pen doesn't contribute nearly as much to your damage output as flat AP except on a select few champions, like Ryze for example. You can probably search in the Theorycrafting subforum if you're interested in the math. That's not really my forte when it comes to League theory.


If penetration wasn't better than Attack damage or Ability power, then why would anyone get it AT ALL? Isn't that kind of the entire point, that penetration is better? Else why get the reds at all or any penetration?
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PsiGuard (1065) | December 22, 2011 5:41pm
No, you don't. Flat pen doesn't contribute nearly as much to your damage output as flat AP except on a select few champions, like Ryze for example. You can probably search in the Theorycrafting subforum if you're interested in the math. That's not really my forte when it comes to League theory.
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ShapeShifter | October 25, 2017 9:08pm
also, does precision or rather the armor penetration benefit him? Against champs? or just minions and towers?
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PsiGuard (1065) | October 25, 2017 11:17pm
Armor penetration only increases the effectiveness of physical damage, so it's not very useful on mages like Ryze, who deal mostly magic damage. Armor penetration runes (more specifically, Greater Mark of Lethality) are used on some assassins like Kayn and Zed who deal physical damage with their spells.
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ShapeShifter | October 25, 2017 9:00pm
You're saying Ryze is better off with flat MP than AP, correct? but doesn't he scale with AP? or is that only Mana?
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PsiGuard (1065) | October 25, 2017 11:15pm
I'd recommend Greater Quintessence of Ability Power on Ryze (along with most mages). The flat AP helps you waveclear early and generally matches the damage you would get from magic pen on most champions anyway. He definitely scales off of AP as well as mana, so items like Rod of Ages and Archangel's Staff that offer both stats are really good on him.
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Drain (5) | December 22, 2011 5:30pm
Don't get why more people don't use these. You'd obviously get more DPS out of these than AP quints.
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