11.15 Bottom Lane Tier List Patch 11.15

I think her Q CD nerf hurt her lane phase a lot. She has steadily dropped in play rate and I suspect it will continue.

I don't think a marksman's strength should be gauged on whether they can correct themselves after a misplay or not. In addition, while utility can be an asset to marksmen, it isn't required. Finally, Ashe and Jhin are quite similar in concept. Ashe can also be quite vulnerable to misposition since she has no mobility and Jhin has plenty of utility. The criterion laid out is mostly satisfied by both marksmen.

I think at the moment what crucially separates the two marksmen is strength is how they utilize Galeforce, an overpowered marksman mythic. Ashe can use the movement speed stat better, but the burst damage dash is the overpowered component to Galeforce in my opinion which is better utilized by Jhin. Kai'Sa is in the S Tier for a similar reason, although she is also great with Kraken Slayer.

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You are probably right. I moved Samira to the A Tier this patch. I was cautious at first since Samira's changes did require her playerbase to overcome an initial learning curve, but it still appears Samira lost her footing in the meta. Thanks for the input.

Hello. Thanks for the comment.

I play Xayah on occasion and I love Navori Quickblades on her. I have a post highlighting Navori Quickblades on Xayah as well. The reason I put her in D Tier is:

1. Navori Quickblades is very late game. I'm sure you know why, but I will explain anyway. The higher your critical strike is, the more efficient Navori Quickblades becomes. She hits her power spike later than most marksmen. Xayah has also been historically nerfed and her early game agency is poor. The game can be over entirely before Xayah gets the opportunity to hit her power spike.

2. While this may seem a bit illogical, this tier list considers player margin-of-error. For example, if players piloted Kalista like master players, Kalista would be in the A or S Tier. Xayah's particular predicament is itemization. A lot of players are not aware of Xayah's Navori Quickblade synergy. In addition, many players are likely experiencing a learning curve to adjust Galeforce into Xayah's build. In my opinion, Galeforce is a very underutilized item to allow Xayah playmaking during the early game.

To illustrate these two itemization inefficiencies, if you pull up a stats website that tracks items, generally speaking, Galeforce and Navori Quickblades are incorporated into Xayah's build more often and more successfully the higher rank you go.

For these two reasons, I have Xayah in the D Tier. If this were a high elo tier list, maybe Xayah would deserve B Tier instead. However, I still do feel Navori Quickblades comes online too late for Xayah to perform consistently. If you are a Xayah player, I encourage you to continue playing her. I do believe you need to exert more skill to perform well compared to other marksmen, but she also has a high skill ceiling. She has a lot of potential and she's fun too.

You're absolutely right. It's definitely true that any unit, regardless of strength by itself, has purpose for a team synergy.

I don't know how to incorporate team compositions into a tier list. It'd probably be better in guides or blog posts.

I'll format this response the same way I did in the previous tier list.

Jinx does have trouble against Draven and Miss Fortune but her stance in the meta is different from that. She does much better against more prominent marksmen such as Kai'Sa and Caitlyn and alike the two snowball early marksmen mentioned, she has snowball potential with her passive steroid while still yielding the strengths of a hyper-carry.

Similarly, Twitch can get shut-down, arguably harder, than Jinx. However I think his cheese-oriented play-style is great in solo queue and he also has opportunities to come ahead in lane. He's pretty uncontestable in his ultimate, especially at his three-item spike, and with a good peel support nothing can stop his AOE burst in team fights.

My problem with Vayne is after nerfs to her ultimate tumble cooldown passive AND guinsoo's rageblade in the same patch, she's doing less damage at her two item spike, and is easier to kill even with her ultimate skilled. The busted part of her kit back in her meta days was her invisibility being readily available which isn't the case until late game.

I honestly believe Neeko is a sleeper pick, but perhaps not in her traditional on-hit build. While she can still build Press the Attack, her Glacial Augment AP build is also just as good. I think her AOE crowd-control and her clone being best used in a duo lane makes the champion as a whole powerful in the bottom lane and she has a lot of variability in build-paths to suit many team compositions.

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Thanks for the comment. Miss Fortune as a lethality user is similar to Jhin in both damage and functionality since Love Tap is typically her only source of auto-attack damage building lethality. There is a key difference and it changes Miss Fortune's core strengths and weaknesses.

She is very successful with Press the Attack since her Double Up is an on-hit ability. If she maxes Strut her attack speed steroid is enough to look for extended trades. There are a couple build components such as Blade of the Ruined King and Overheal that make Miss Fortune surprisingly effective.

A lot of high elo players are abusing Miss Fortune's new build. She becomes less ability reliant than marksman casters such as Jhin. I think this is what sepatates the two in damage and functionality. Jhin must wait on his cooldowns and take short burst trades while Miss Fortune can take both burst trades and extended trades. Miss Fortune's burst trade also has higher damage with Press the Attack and can be performed quicker with attack speed.

I'd say traditional lethality Miss Fortune would fall somewhere in C Tier. I hope this explanation was useful.