Soo moralgay i look and your history now and do you what .... why are you posting the same fking text under every Garen guide wich i see. When you dont like how Garen get played by the most. No cc it´s Garen he got one silence and end of the story the silence is mostly hard enough.

Btw :D the thornmail is in my opinion a situational item it depands on that the enemy team got hard phisical Dmg.

Waaaay too much emphasis on tank encouraging insanity, at least you have the cc in there so while this build might still encourage the Garen player in the mentality of "tanking" 5 people and chasing down some low lifer at least the chase won't be as long tho tank Garens are still inclined to get their whole team killed, especially without the massive cc of real tanks, as they come to save him from the 5v1 and get killed while he chases someone and gets everyone out of position. At least you put in some cc to help with that, I'll give you that much.

good to hear :P but you shouldreally consider putting ArP marks :P or flat ad/ ArP mix and mr glyphs, as garen doesnt benefit from cdr early because he doesnt have that long cooldowns anyways. And as you probably know, the longer cd's you have the more you benefit from cdr :P

its been a time since a wrote this guide, and i learned alot ( more experience from ranked and so on. runepage is ****ed yes, though its still cheap and thats one of my things i wanted to go with. thornmail is still a good choise bcs you got much health and then its imba! i also change out heal to flash, bcs flash is most important spell. and like you said, i notice that frozen mallet is to expensive a should buy it later and if my farm isnt going well i buy gp5

klasnik. WHY do you have such a fucled up runepage? xD and the guy that downvoted you, downvotes every guide he doesnt agree 100% with. I dont really see much potential in this type of item build myself, as imo you are much better off with full tank OR more dmg and ArP. and you really need to change out frozen mallet/put it later in your build. Its so ****ing expensive lol...

youandme, i think you just looked at the build and not read a thing, bcs if you read it i have writen why i choose theese things, like thornmail, i say its only if its much ad! and heal is that you can change a big fight in lane, so say what you think is better spell for him? ghost like i see you have on your, is not very good since you have Q, and its enough, and if you dont see what my build is, its an offtank, not "somuchdmgyoucanget build"...

You miss how to play, you choosed heal as summoner spell and suggested thornmail as standart item, do i have to say more?

Garen needs enough attack dmg to be focused, you don't have that.

Nice build, but as it says farming is a bit hard but I like the strong laning ability and atma is king gj!

thx charasaki1986 :)

nice work, like it +1

nice work, like it +1

thx warlegend :)

Zombiemelon, you are totally right about that, thats one big thing with garen who people want to know, still i dont got the best idea to do it, but when i know it, i promise i will edit that :)

bodanger, really is thanking you for the comments you wrote, you have right about the runes, i toke the best you can get if you dont want to waste so much ip, so that one you got right, but like i said in my build, its a cheap runepage except cooldown. and tenacity could be a good choise, just dont hav it in my build, i don´t say tenacity is bad in some way, just that you got judgement for the slow, and stuns and stuff will kill kind of fast anyway, but good opinion :) thx

thx sezaios, thats my whole idea of the build :)