In my league its one of the best, i like it more its cheap and 100 def is what I need , make your guide dont use Thornsmail

You also call Thornsmail " one of greates Defense items in League."


It is one of the worst.

In any situation that you can use thornsmail, Randiums Omen will be better.

1. Frozen herarth is good for late game vs fed carries , it gives you CDR and slows enemy AS good combo with your E so its good.

Im maxing W second in all my guides.

My runes , are like i like them , i take sustan Quins and in jungle if you take vamp scepter you need that 6 AD so i take it

He doesn't even max W, and yet he wants to talk about sustain ahuehuehue.

Like I said, there's a Frozen heart listed, his runes are bad, his skill orders are wonky, pretty much everything is off.

And that's fine, I would have left all of that alone with my constructive criticism comment, until he came and accused me of DV'ing purely to bolster my own guide's appearance. It makes it easy to cast the vote that you think a guide legitimately deserves when that happens, and also when they don't improve the guide.

Did he just say that Duff knows nothing of sustain.... wow....

Its clear he haven't even read Duffs guide....

Yes he would. There's tons of valuable information there and the builds and runes are the best on the website.



There was no trolling done. I am only responding to your accusations the way I always respond to ridiculous accusations/insults.

Sleep well.

OK type something more , get my guide lower im off to sleep. gj trolling it

Heey my guide is now 88% gj , still ****s give = 0.

Still if i would give a newb reader your guide do you think he would learn something how to play him , dont think so.

No dude, I have 5 builds listed, and clearly and explicitly describe three viable ways to play Lee Sin in my build.

Anybody who reads it once knows that, it's not a very long guide.

Also, more amusing conspiracy theories;



This is not a fact. This is a theory.

Just like how when you got a random vote, you came and accused me.

Then when I actually did vote, you accused me of getting chronies to vote.

Now you're gonna tell me that there's some crazy hierarchy where Moba Vets downvote other guides to buff their own.

The only thing I feel actually does happen, is that MobaFire regulars will gang up on a guide and bee's nest it down with a swarm of votes, but that's not a secret regime aimed at keeping their guides highly rated, that's just the unfortunate result of a forum where friendships are made and people tell each other, "Look at this, how dumb" and vote in bunches.

It isn't about having one guide higher than another, and it's not against the rules. It sucks to be the guy getting bombed with votes, (I was that guy with my first guide, a good number of vets downvoted my guide all at once.) but there isn't anything that can be done about it unfortunately.

Wow thanks didnt noticed
AND its SMILIWAT

i dont call ou a

Umm so i read your soul shattering story.

I give you facts, a vet moba makes a guide, all top guides are DOWNVOTED so that vet guide would be at the top (this is a fact, if you would be a normal member you would see that)

You now downvoted my guide only because of my runes , silly but still your choise. As you see Jacks guide is pretty old, and it isnt updated for some really long time, old bad jungle route , if you would pay attention you would see that my runes and Jak's runes are pretty similar, i only like other Quints.

All i wanted to say in my previose posts that your guide also isn't that good , you think that people need in-depth minds and **** like that, if you do your totally wrong about only 10% of people read half your guide only like 2-3% actually read it all. People dont care about your feelings and experience they need only a cheet sheet and some visual, thats how my guide is based.

What i think about your BUILD , have you ever tried bruiser Lee Sin or you only play glass-cannon one ? 2,1 k hp is a joke. To my mind your build (not guides) must be reconsidered , but that's only my thought. Also your runes, have you ever heard about sustain ? you dont need to build pure damage lee he will suck 1v1 fighthin versus bruiser lee.

Your guide is more advanced lee player based, mine is opposit of your , it is for starers people who just bought him and who want to learn more about him.

Still i'm that type of person who will rage on other people guides and i havent voted on any of your guides even on that REAL vayne guide.

Wow this Smil guy is quite the ******* /: