Have fun n thanks :)

Ah k, but still like the 21 offense instead of 21 defensive more at the trinity set. (9 utility in both). I also buy my Witts End end before the trinity force (between mercurys and trinity) because it really helps with getting kills instead of farming first for an item of 4k. Most of time my stats are positive like 11/3/10 today with those changes and i like being the damage dealer :D Thx for the +rep, also gave it to you ;)

Greetings RedRathalos

Thanks a lot mate. You dont need to spend your points in middle tree. Trust me, j4 needs manareg.

Hey,
Nice guide, bought Jarvan IV yesterday and i like him.
1 thing i can say your trinity build works better with an 21/9/0 mastery page.
I hope i helped a bit ;)
Grts RedRathalos

Could you explain what's best and why? TriForce Jarvan or Tanky jarvan? By tanky i mean wriggles + mercurys + warmogs + randuin + etc...

I feel the tanky way is better, jarvan does a good amount of damage even without triforce..
And, he is too squishy while he builds Triforce. Where does all the gold come from? It's ok solotop but in jungle the other way is better. IMO.

Explain?

That's a sign of being a noob. You shouldnt be having two types of runes in a diffrent slot type.

Just a suggestion on improving your guide... 3x ad marks 6x ar pen marks and 3x ad quints gives better stats than what you have. I know its annoying to have to spend the ip on stuff like that but its worth every point.

No problem mate! Good job, im glad that you did well in your games :)
I'd really recommend you taking Wit's End, it will make your attacks much more present, along with the nice MR buff you'll have. Atma is also very pleasing, but that's more for a Tank>Offtank. :)

Great guide! I've been winning a lot more games using jungle j4. Its pretty easy and ganks work really well especially lvl 6 ones ^^
I havent had a chance to use Wit's End yet. I'm looking forward to a game with more AP on the other side so I can see that +40% AS in action ^^ . I've used the traditional Atma's in its place instead.
Thanks!

Thanks for the review. Buying philosopher's stone is not viable in my opinion, because I already buy Wriggle's Lantern which gives me quite enough sustain, and I myself rarely buy Shurelya's Battlesong. I have already done the spellcheck. Thanks for the feedback pal!

Positives:
+Good use of color
+Generally solid information
+An interesting idea for a jarvan

Suggestions:
~I'm not exactly sure why you chose your glyphs and quints, I would suggest MR per level glyphs because late game you lose a lot of magic resist potential. The quints are something that you could probably find a better replacement for too; maybe movement speed.
~I think that you could probably switch out Heart of Gold for Philosopher's stone. You keep your gp10 and gain some bonus mana regen which jarvan can definitely benefit from. Plus late game Shurelya's Battlesong works well with your AoE slow, giving you the added speed you and your team need.

Negatives:
-You need to give credit where credit is due, if you use Jai's separators and format, please leave her some sort of "thanks" in your guide.
-Add a 6th item to your item selection, even if it is a situational slot.
-You could really use a grammar check on this guide, your language barrier seems to be a small issue.

I think your guide could use a little more work, right now it seems like it's around 65-70%

Pm me when you have made some changes and would like a final vote.

Okay den. Thanks for the feedback :)