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theBMB Last updated on April 24, 2013
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Nighthawk's Forum Avatar by Nighthawk » November 16, 2011 9:23am | Report
Don't listen to lugi, Wriggles and razors dont stack.


nj tho :D

I wish you would take out Warmogs on Sivir though... :(

theBMB's Forum Avatar by theBMB » November 18, 2011 8:16pm | Report
Adovid wrote:

Boots of Swiftness greatly increase the effectiveness of ghost (something like 20 movespeed over the level 2 boots which is something like 64 vs 84 using ghost to blitz someone(chasing them in lane until they either die or get to safety of tower or out of position in a team fight). Calculations done with 310 base movespeed. Shurelya's Reverie same thing but to a lesser extent as Reverie is already useful for blitzing and adding more to it is mostly overkill.

that's a pretty good point actually, I'll take that into account, although those are somewhat situational benefits, so it's hard to say that it makes swiftness all that much better.
Naheer's Forum Avatar by Naheer » November 19, 2011 8:26pm | Report
This guide, is UNREMARKABLE. I love it, and the new situations that I think these could fit in with are great.

Graves with Tiamat is very good btw.

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darkwalker's Forum Avatar by darkwalker » November 20, 2011 9:19am | Report
+1 loved the details great insight very helpful, and awesome.
Duganmaster's Forum Avatar by Duganmaster » November 25, 2011 2:09pm | Report
I think you should give leviathan a little more credit than you did- sure, the amount of health it gives isnt any warmogs, and its mitigation seems a little lackluster. BUT, you neglected to include that the mitigation is impenetrable. If you stack 300 armor and someone builds last whisper, youve just lost 120 points of armor. You can't counter the mitigation from leviathan, as it doesnt just ADD armor or magic resist. Its like the opposite of true damage in a sense. True mitigation. Kind of.
leaguesdf's Forum Avatar by leaguesdf » November 28, 2011 10:24am | Report
Well I already said that this guide is amazing. But I see something that you got wrong, well at least in my opinion.

Last Whisper You completely undersell this item. This is the item that makes AD carries useful in late game, so they can actually hurt offtanks that goes for them in fights, which usually will 150+ armor at that stage of the game. Even supports get pretty tanky late game.

Now about The Black Cleaver, you wrote that you prefer this item over last whisper. The armor penetration this brings does not come even close to last whisper now especially with the new mastery Weapon Expertise which synergies with last whisper so good.

The whole point of the black cleaver is that it is a good early-mid game item. The best way to build a dps champ is the combo of Infinity Edge+ Phantom Dancer+ Last Whisper- Infinity for damage, phantom to fuel the IE with AS and more crit, and whisper to be effective vs armored enemies. The The Black Cleaver combines all this stats (except crit) in 1 cheap item, so it's a great item that if you rush it it will boost your mid game damage by a lot. If you dont get it early, there is no point in it, cause u are better off with LW for armor penetration and stronger items for damage and AS. Champs that could use it(by buying it early on) are Tryndamere, Vayne(makes her an amazing duelist early game),Xin, Twitch(for AOE debuff) and maybe Corki. Again I want to emphasis that this is an early-mid item, and not for champions who just needs to farm and be beasts late game( Kog, graves etc).

Anyway I hope this helps and I hope you'll change your opinion on LW and TBC. If you disagree with me I can explain it more. Btw this is not just me, TBC is rarely bought in high and even mid elo, and if you'll read top elo players guides you'll see they have the same view on this item. Wow that was a long comment :D anyway hope I could help

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Klarry300's Forum Avatar by Klarry300 » December 2, 2011 9:20am | Report
Very detailed and informative.

Great work
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MTaur's Forum Avatar by MTaur » December 26, 2011 12:26pm | Report

I found out about this from jhoijhoi's review exchange page. Previously, I Googled to see if there was something like this, but I didn't find anything, so I started working on my own. When I saw this, I was afraid that there might not be much of a point, but there's less overlap than I thought. I'm actually seeing a lot of things that I forgot to mention or didn't feel like explaining, so I think I'll continue my work. I'm definitely going to link to your guide now.
mastajdog's Forum Avatar by mastajdog » January 1, 2012 7:41pm | Report
been here before, thanks for the mention, quick note i'd like to have added to the spirit visage section: end game, a warmog's will do more healing anyway for almost any champion. i've done the math. it also has better stats, and owns spirit visage end game as a replacement for mundo at least.
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Kaelthyn's Forum Avatar by Kaelthyn » January 5, 2012 1:30pm | Report
a nice all arround item guide. Im LvL 30 and i still found it usefull. Now i have more understanding about what i should build, and when.

Also on a side notice, if you purchase all 3 elixirs, Oracles and youhave baron, blue and red - you look like a christmas tree :D. It sure is scary to see a cho gath with 6 stacks of ulti when he glows in hellish colors and has huge buffs arround him.... :D

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