You should. No one will give a **** about this guide until you do. By then, you'll learn what a real LoL game is like. GLHF.

By the time you get there, the Karma rework will probably have happened, lmao.

But yeah. Once you get to level 30, maybe you'll have some support know-how.

ok... then lets make it short: i will get to level 30, start playing ranked, excell in the game, and make this guide once more...

rude criticism isnt helping...

will remake or renew it when i have made enough experiance the way u "people" want it... if it still works then, then i have a good arguement...

soooo loong suckers...

I'll tell you one simple reason why you won that game. Hint: It is not because your build is good or viable.

It's because Renekton counters Lee Sin.

And I don't think you've actually read a word of what everyone has said, but instead focused too hard on insisting that your guide, which is ****, isn't ****, but it is.

lmfao. Using a 2v2 all mid to try and validate the guide... Sorry, but that's not what is meant by 'play against ranked players'. It means to go into a 5v5 ranked game, to pick Karma and to successfully carry your team. A 2v2 all mid does not serve to demonstrate the dynamics of the botlane, a team fight or team compositions.

But let's be a bit more specific about where your guide fails...

Some basic support knowledge:

- GP10s. You won't be farming in your lane and you need your gold other methods.

- Warding. You need to ward the lane for your partner, so you can avoid incoming ganks.

- Aura. You can support with more than just abilities, use aura items to affect performance of teammates!

- Low kill/High assist. In order to let your carries maximise their damage, you let them have the kills. As such, you should have a low kill score, low deaths score and high assist score.

Now, let's go through those 4 and see what you have in the way of the above.

- GP10s. You have 1-2 points in Greed other than that, no money. You also try your hardest to farm, which is not what a support is meant to do. So you fail the first criteria.

- Warding. No mention of wards in the ENTIRE GUIDE. Fail.

- Aura. Only Will of the Ancients and that is arguably one of the worst support items. Fail.

- Low kill/High assist. You write as if you were under the illusion that the support should be going for kill-shots. Fail.

Even ignoring the fact that support doesn't usually go top-lane (although if you argue that at pro level, there is no meta, and thus you can go support where you think is needed, then yes, you could arguably go top-lane), you have a poor understanding on the role of the support - virtually all of what you say is wrong. Your build is also not a support build.

But you've already been told this by 1) a PLATINUM-Elo Karma player, 2) a PLATINUM-Elo support specialist, and 3) a support-specialist who plays Shaco support.

And what do you have in comparison? 7 years of DotA experience. Just ignore the high-level players who have been playing LoL for multiple seasons...

In short... WHY THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY KNOW WTF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT?

As you asked, I'll tell you what you should change. The existence of this guide to non-existent. Get to level 30 (or even level 25), play some ranked games (or even play some draft) and then attempt to write a guide.

And I think you'll find that people can troll or mob this guide as much as they want, because it is just pure nonsense - can't build, can't support, can't argue.

To be honest, I don't even know why you wrote a guide on a champion who is about to get a rework. Or did you not know that?

I don't think you realize why the people talking to you are right. Those team comps would never be seen past lv 25 except in trolling Custom games.

Also, as an experiences Karma player both this season and last there are many things wrong with this guide. I have to go now but I'll be coming back later in the day to give you some insight.

on ur request, i played against ranked players... a few of my friends who play ranked, challenged me to go with this build and try it against them:

the rules were:
2v2 all mid
renekton and karma vs lee sin and ezreal
results:
renekton: 7/3/3
Karma: 2/2/9
Lee sin: 4/5/1
Ezreal: 1/4/3

Renekton Karma with an OVERpowering win... they lost all towers, we didnt loose any... for ur info, his ranking is 1780
renekton and karma were both not ranked yet...

so, now that we see it works in practice, maybe you can be more supportive:

to your comment: my build is not for pro gamers (as i also wrote in the description), it is simply a fun support build that i created, and realized, that it is damn good in the games i currently play, not to mention, that it actually works against people who play damn well, so i dont actually get what ur trying to say...

look this is not a personal discussion... if you have more helpful changes, then please comment kindly...
thx

Oh you reported me? Well guess what, nothing's gonna happen to me. You have only yourself to blame for getting mad over my comments on your ******ed guide. And no, I wasn't trolling when I said you are not qualified enough to write a guide. And everyone agrees.

There have been so many comments on what you should change. Did you? You did not. For the sake of your tiny little brain's comprehension, they are:

- (Mentioned by astrolia) Your runes are wrong. Mana regen blues and yellows? Naaaaaaah.

- Your masteries are wrong. Bladed Armor is only for junglers. And you need to spec full Greed and Wealth .

- Your summoner spells are wrong. (Mentioned by astrolia) Flash is a must. Heal is suboptimal on a champion who already has one.

- Your item build is complete garbage. Spirit of Whatever is only for junglers, and furthermore you have two of them in one build, and in the other build you have Lich Bane and Iceborn Gauntlet together. I can build straight AP and still be a better support than you, simply because your item build fails so hard. And where the hell is your Sightstone?

- It bears repeating that you are not qualified enough to write a guide. What works for you now at your level, where your opponents are just as bad as you are, will not work at level 30. Heck, what works at level 30 might not work in a high ranked game. So what makes you think you're qualified?

m8... u seem to miss the point of social networks and the like... and if u even read the guide, then you would see, that this is how I do it, and that I find it rather decent... if u dont like my guide, then vote it down, but there is no need to be a prick...

as for dota... if u were any good, then you would know that this game is based on that damn concept.

please, the rest of you, please write what you think i should change and what you think is good, i dont want to read anything else, and will go directly to reporting you just like this guy...

positive criticism... not trolling or mobbing...

i hope you are all old and mature enough to comprehend my kind request...

Oh you do, do you? The hell you do. I'll repeat that. The. Hell. You. Do. Always remember that you are noob. I'll repeat that as well. You. Are. Noob. Always. Remember. That. You. Are. Noob!!!huehuehue

Here's my positive criticism for you. You are not qualified enough to write a guide. I know that for a fact because you included Spirit of the Flaming Turds in your item build, when that is clearly a jungler item. That itself proves that you don't know enough about the game to write a guide.

Wait til you hit level 25. You'll find that games play out very differently from where you are at level 15, where more than half of games don't have a jungler, and tank is actually a role not a champion type and distinct from support. In the meantime, I suggest you go watch some livestreams of pro players. My favourites are TheOddOne and stonewall008 (junglers) and ocelote (mid laner). Watching these guys play will give you an idea of what real LoL games are like. Not beginner ones.

And lastly, screw your DotA experience. It counts for nothing. I've played DotA for one year and LoL for one year and why am I way better than you? The answer is this: did you seriously think you can transfer your experience of another game and claim expertise when you have none?

played dota for 7 years... i understand the strategy of this game i think... positive criticism or stfu... thats all... thx

Instant -1 because of Spirit Stone tree items in your build. You never build those unless you're a jungler. And sad to say, throatslasher and astrolia are right. If you're level 15, I'm sorry to say, you're not qualified enough to write a guide. Heck, you don't even have runes yet.