wish you would update this guide for S4....it's still a pretty viable guide. I'd suggest a phantom dancer or something to go with that vamp personally....it works wonders. Especially late game if you're runnin tanky.

I rarely read guides on Mobafire. Stumbled across yours. Enjoyed the read. +1.

Well it depends. If you're getting your butt kicked, it may be worth picking up merc's and a Hexdrinker early. If you're faring pretty well, maybe just grab the null-magic and keep building normally. It all depends on how the game is going and what's in the immediate future. i.e. If you're breaking about even with Vlad, and he's level 5, then you know next level he's going to get his ult and might be able to pump a lot more damage out from seemingly nowhere.



As stated by ShortyHUN, any enemy caught in the physical splash of Excessive Force will get a stack of Black Cleaver, but other on-hit effects (Unless they say "Dealing physical damage...") will only apply to the target you directly attack, if you hit (i.e. not blinded, etc.)

Every physical damage applies Black Cleaver effect, its even written there... And I can tell you it's a no, Iceborn Gauntlet's freezing effect is not carried with any aoe hit and actually the slow comes from it's own placed aoe around your target.

Just a tip: In custom game I noticed that her E apply on-hit effects(it applied black cleaver one's) so it is worth checking if it can apply others such as iceborn's, frozzen's etc.

Nice guide overall +1

I just have one question about the magic res build. If im against an AP champion top, should i go with the magic res build or should i change my build with some of the items suggested?

Very very textie, but it looks good ;P

well done +1
-Meiyjhe