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Sejuani Build Guide by divic

Tank [5.8] Beware of the hog

Tank [5.8] Beware of the hog

Updated on May 4, 2015
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Cleife | September 22, 2015 9:05am
Great guide although noticed the runes are slightly wrong you only have 3CDR blues but for the 5% you stated in your guide you need 6 seems to just be a typo but thought i would let you know :)
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divic (13) | May 4, 2015 8:28am
Really can't understand you at all.

Haven't played in NA-server for couple years but in european servers it's much more important to get Greater Stealth Totem as a jungler than a Sweeping Lens. Even more important in soloqueue. You can't do anything without vision and you don't have it you just take Sweeping Lens. Sightstone has terrible value when compared to Greater Stealth Totem. I also have huge chapter about vision control. Just make sure you can keep those spots and you'll do great. Someone wandering alone clearing your wards is always easy kill. If you are talking about vision control when ganking, and want to clear wards, may I ask why? For example when ganking top, if enemy has warded tri, you DO NOT want to go and clear the ward, then toplaner will be alert for ganks and you can't gank. There are always at least two ways to gank lanes and currently people are only warding one place. If enemy is close to turret, you can gank by lane instead and if enemy is pushing, you can come by river. If river has been warded, come from enemy-jungle, like I told in the guide. That's usually most effective way.

Flanking, so you like fine words. To turn this on more standard level: so you want to isolate and weaken enemies? There is no specific way of doing that. Technically you are usually between targets so that other ones can't aid the one you are attacking or just coming from side and killing some before others get to help them. But how can you describe that? You ain't actually assassin, you also have to engage sometimes. A lots of people would be mad if I would just tell you to hide in bushes and wait for chance to isolate some people from the fight. Generally, chances to fail are smaller if you just try to ult as many people as you can and not try to isolate them.

Dash extensions, kiting and animation canceling aren't in my opinion specific to Sejuani. And risk to fail is much higher when trying those. Sure those are cool tips, but so it kiting and such. I am quite busy university-student, I don't have time to make guides out of every game-mechanic that don't even relate on the champion.

Dragon and baron are more about surprise-momentum, zoning enemies and keeping enemies busy somewhere else. If you are going to clear wards from dragon like 30 secs before you start it, every single one will know that you'll do it. Logic? Read Sun Tzu's books if you got free time. But, if you see 2 enemies at top and decide to rush dragon, there's not much they can do for it. If enemy doesn't know when dragon is spawning, you may want to clear vision from there at some point so that you can rush drake immediately.

TLDR: as I told you, this is close to the final version. Don't have time to make guides out of everything. In my opinion you didn't reveal any further points for improvement on this Sejuani-guide. I am not trying to teach people military tactics just cause those words sound cool.
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utopus (313) | May 4, 2015 12:45am
Hello, you requested a review from my review service, found here

I uploaded my review of your guide as a PDF - I hope that's okay. To reiterate from my forum thread, i'd like to remind you that the score that goes along with this guide doesn't necessarily represent the actual aggregate quality of the guide, but instead a tool that you should use to gauge the relative importance of the points that I bring up.



A decent improvement over your last revision of the guide. The emphasis you put on vision was good, and unique for most jungling guides, as few guides go into as much detail about vision as your guide does. One thing that i'd like you to do is expand on your emphasis of vision control to outside the laning phase. I think that sejuani does exceptionally well against her opponents if her opponents have to facecheck things like brush, and neutral objectives, and she can make them pay by initiating well, and also flanking well. I'd like you to put more emphasis about how you control your opponents vision, and how good vision control allows you to set up plays and flanks that win you team fights.

Aside from that, there were just a few things here and there that i'd like you to shape up, like shortening your situational items section, or teaching your readers how to animation cancel your ult.
Also, turn on comment to vote. It'll reduce the amount of troll votes that you get.

If you have any questions about my review, you can just comment here, or PM me if i'm taking a long time to respond for some reason. As always, I hope you got something out of this review. If you did, a +rep really means a lot to me :) Once you get into more detail about flanking, let me know and i'll +scout your guide.

Thanks for your time,
Michael
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utopus (313) | April 10, 2015 3:31pm
You're right - A lot of this stuff is contextual. I'm just trying to get you to generalize this kind of thing in a way that your readers can understand it better. I think saying something along the lines of, "When you gank, you should look to flank yourself in such a way that closes out as many escape routes of your opponent as possible. If you look at the picture below, I positioned myself in such a way that the only way for my opponent could sidestep my Arctic Assault was to sidestep directly backwards and into my top laner."
The bottom line is that even through anecdotes, you can draw generalized tips - tips that your readers will be able to understand better.

I'm looking to get some meta jungler guides featured, and this is one that i'm really looking at. Let me know when you make some revisions :)
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divic (13) | April 1, 2015 6:26pm
Doing those will take some time. My lolking-replays didn't work for some reason so I have to stream everything myself in order to do those points. I'll look back on it after easter / about a week. Those decisions in a middle of a fight can't be really explained, those need some sort of a gif.

You had some good points and only couple points that I don't agree with. Biggest problem is actually the amount of additional work those changes would take. It's impossible to say anything about when to charge and interrupt Gnar's jump while ganking him and when to wait and try to burn a flash just by writing or taking a picture. Situation lives so much.

It's like taking a picture of malphite and saying that he'll ult and I'll dodge ultimate with flash, killing him after that. It's not that simple. You make decisions based on his movements. It's like 1/5 of decision making, 1/5 of Sun Tzu's battlefield psychology, 1/5 of reflexes and 2/5 of mojo.
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utopus (313) | April 1, 2015 4:10pm
Hello, you requested a review from my review service, found here

I uploaded my review of your guide as a PDF - I hope that's okay. To reiterate from my forum thread, i'd like to remind you that the score that goes along with this guide doesn't necessarily represent the actual aggregate quality of the guide, but instead a tool that you should use to gauge the relative importance of the points that I bring up.

review


Overall, a pretty good guide. Pretty barebones - which is a good thing, as most guides these days have a lot of fluff in them that really distract a reader instead of helping them.

Before i upvote this guide, i'd like to see a little more content added to it. I'll upvote the guide once you finally answer the question, "EXACTLY how far away can my opponents be so that I can catch them out?". It's a pretty complicated question to answer, so it'd be good if that had its' own section.

One thing that i'd like to emphasize is that a lot of the points that i bring up can be taught much more easily when you give your readers an example situation. You can really talk about your own mindset in a few screenshots, and I think that that will ultimately help benefit your readers much more than just making generalized points.

If you have any questions about my review, you can just comment here, or PM me if i'm taking a long time to respond for some reason. As always, I hope you got something out of this review. If you did, a +rep really means a lot to me :) Post again on my review thread once you've made changes and i'll be happy to re-review your guide for you

Thanks for your time,
Michael
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