Its alright, I still thank you for your input on the build. This is my first build, so I didn't expect it to be wonderful xD. but I am glad it wasn't ignored or anything. Your criticism, negative or positive, is still appreciated. I will make another one after i figure out some more about it, so i'd love for you to check that out when I do! If you don't want to, that is fine also. I am not going to make you to do anything.

So thank you again, and,
I wish you Great Bloodshed in the fields of Justice Summoner.

Mmm... Well, it's your guide, I can't do anything, but I still don't agree with you. I'm orry but you just can't go AP or sorcerer's on Garen. For me it's a -1 if you don't change this stuff

I'll get back to you about the glyphs and such

Thank you all for your feedback :D
First i'll start from the bottom and work my way up, please try to bare with me.

I know its kind of confusing, but if your turn on your floating damage in your settings, there is (or at least there was) an AP damage rating when you strike an enemy with your Demacian Justice, and I had double checked this by removing my Sunfire Aegis from Garen, but I still got AP damage to appear when I hit the enemy with it. Next, is the Atma's Impaler you mentioned. I thought about putting this item up, but after it's nerfing spree, It is not a very good item anymore. The attack damage per/health is a nice addition, but, in this build your health isn't high enough to have a very nice effect, and that extra Armour isn't really worth it unless your just trying to hold off for the next Armour item. Next you said no to the Bloodthirster is a no no. The reason this item is here is to regain health after a big team fight and you use it against the minions and monsters...which I now notice I didn't explain in the guide, for which I am sorry. But it is ment to used while you are alone and your dont want to B. mix this with your Perseverance perk so you can stay in lane AND get gold. Next you said Ravenous Hydra. Now I ALMOST agreed with you, until you look at the perks it provides. Not only do you have a back up AOE, with it and its active, but also lifesteal, and the damage that Bloodthirster provides. Next, I already discussed the Atma's Impaler so ill talk about the Infinity Edge. This item is really just a sort of other option to the other 2 items if your aren't interested in AOE or Lifesteal, and just want some extra DMG and Crit. Not something I Completely reccomend, or say you should get. Which is why I said it it is Optional. Which is why they are all in the Completely Optional: section. All of those items are really. Next is your comment about Garen being a tank. This CAN be true, but really, almost any fighter chracters can be a tank. If you check, Garen is a Fighter type chracter, so he's liable to tank or do damage. Next is Fleet of Foot. this is really for early game. Late game it has little to no effect, but the faster you get into lane, the less enemies can push your lane. I think everyone can agree on that. Thank you for your feedback, and i'd love to hear what else you have to say about it theyouiporit :D

Next is The comment about your ultimate. Like I just discussed in the last paragraph, It does do some damage like that (At least this is what I saw. It could be a bug, or im completly stupid xD, so don't bet fully on this). And if it IS pointless to have for the extra magic damage, that doesn't leave out it's CD. It is always fun when you can call down the light of God and turning people to ashes, so why wait longer than you have to? Thank you for your feedback EvilSquirelKing, Id love to hear what else you have to say :D

Next is Emikadon. All i really have to say to you is thank you for your Advice on the guide placing and showing me how to use the code right! :D I hope you enjoyed my attempt at this build.

Well, just a short comment. I think that you messed your runes up quite a lot. Maybe attack damage runes are OK, but just MAYBE. One floating CDR mark... no armor seals... and glyphs are quite wrong. What. The. ****. Situational items, Rabadon's Deathcap?? Change immediately, Demacian Justice doesn't scale on Ap. Masteries, isn't Garen a tank? Those points in Fleet of Foot , why?
A summary of all of this, you focus too much in doing damage and more damage. Garen is similar to Darius, they both do tons of damage without any damage items, thats why you build them tanky.
Items, Bloodthirster, no. Ravenous Hydra? Maybe for Q for not that worth. Infinity Edge, replace that with Atma's Impaler
I'm not being rough at you, I'm trying to give you the best feedback I can

wait what? I have a question. does r stack with ap? I thought it only stacked with amount of health the targeted enemy champ is missing.
+1 though everything else is nice just needs some cleaning up

Hi! I don't play top lane much, but reading over your guide, I can see a few things you can do to improve. :)

• If you want a bullet like this, you need to type [ list ] in first xD (Take out the spaces before and after "list". I had to write this way so it wouldn't actually be coded, haha.)
• Then to stop that section of bullet points, type [ /list ].

So that's that, haha.

Next, maybe actually include a picture of the runes/masteries you're going to use in the section that you're going to discuss? This will make it easier for the reader to visualize. And next to it, you can put why you chose those runes/masteries and how they're effective.

The last thing I'd like to point out is to maybe combine some of the item sections in the top part (I dunno what it's called xD I think it's the cheat sheet?). For example, instead of putting The Brutalizer and Giant's Belt in two sections, put it in one and call it "Early Buying" or something like that. This will make it easier to read. Also, you don't have to put notes in all of the indicators. That's what the "Item" section is for! :D

Soo, yeah. Hope my feedback helped, and good luck with updating your guide! ^_^

(Remember: These are just friendly tips. I don't want to seem like I'm bossing you around :))