I did some additional BB-Codes and Images. So I guess it should be looking much more appealing now to the eye.

The deeper I go into the guide, the less you put the effort in it. It starts to lack BBcode and Images.

I have also said it before. In YOUR CORE, cheat sheet, you included two boots. It is still disturbing me, change it please and add the other boots as a situational while explaining your items.



Yup, she doesn't benefit from the attack speed, which increases her fury faster, which results in more ganks. She also doesn't benefit from the Passive:Maim: which deals double damage with Twin Bite. There is no doubt she does not benefit from the massive amount of gold she gets from the gold income from this item, which is much cheaper than Spirit of the Ancient Golem to begin with. And the free ward? Who needs that anyways!

Might be a little bit late, but hybrid pen is core on shyvana. Literally everyone uses them.

Also, wriggles is bad because shyvana doesn't benefit from any of the stats besides the armor. Also, she is an AoE clearing champion which means she benefits more from %damage increases on monsters rather than flat numbers on basic attacks.

Thx for your critics so far. Now i have made a great overwork of the build and you can watch the results. I hope the people find it usefull to work with it.

Thx for the tip and it sounds nice with the wriggles. I included this as option in the text. I will have to try it again a few times. Maybe i will use it some times too.

at pepsiM4A1: I try to improve my build constantly so stay tuned for the changes. I already used many of the tips the commenters gave me and included them in a way into the build.

Here is a game of me playing Shyvana with Wriggle's Lantern.



Varus got 1 extra kill over me, and 25 cs. I also put the effort in ganking as well. Yet I got 400 gold over him. It isn't all that bad you know.

Idk about hybrid pen marks(for runes, AD quints work too).
As discussed earlier, the build is kinda messy/bad.
When it comes to ganking, true, she doesn't have CC but RAW DAMAGE can be enough in a lot of cases.

Trust me, I tried this in bronze, silver, gold, plat and always ended up with moronic and imbecilic responses or in happier cases AFK.

haha took me a little while but i got it, making a all new Poppy Guide ;)

Interesting. So I will try both. I already like to watch who the pros play Shyv and tried to play this in that way in my own rankeds. But I don´t know why it doesn´t worked as well as I thought. Maybe my mechanics are too bad. And yeah i use the actives XD
So I tried to find a own way and it helped me a lot. So maybe if gets into higher elos I my way to build will be similar like that of the other guys. But I think it isn´t that bad if I try to do own experiences. And more important is that it works for me in that elo where I am playing. And since many other players are in the same elo, maybe it helps him them too or not.^^
But many other suggestions i put already into the guide. So I am improving now as soon as possible.

Just wanna respond to this part: At lower ratings (and especially normals) everything can work, as long as you play it well. However, that doesn't make it the optimal way to play which is what guides are supposed to teach. Don't take too much from personal experience and also look around at higher elo players (especially competitive play)



Thank you for assisting me, shame you didn't buy my point on your guide as easily though.

Hi Vyn. Till now it helped me a lot to play Shyv a bit supportive. Not total but a bit. To think about how could I compensate mates who have a bad early. Maybe with more experience in the game i will give you right and change my opinion. For me its a process and discussion with you helps me a lot to understand a champ that i really love to play. I want to main her so its the best for me to figure out as much as possible.
But how i explained I feel really comfortable to give her a little supportive side and still do a good amount of dmg + are tanky enough to eat some damage. You can see this build under progress and I will see which direction it will take in the future :-)

Vynertje is also a Diamond V, lol i think he knows something. Trust me, just listen to him.