thank you for your insightful comment! It means so much that people like you give me the awesome feedback I desire!

nice, gut dzob

Thanks for the upvote and the feedback. I have tried getting deathgrasp first and all but to me it does not give me the instant AP that really gives me a full burst. When I play with my build I get around 300 ap when I finish building archangels and that is around the 27-30 minute mark (unless I am fed). By getting the huge boost of ap from archangels, I can sacrifice that great active and still be very effective. See if it works for you!

I like your guide overall, but I do think it is better if you get Deathfire Grasp sooner rather than later. Like I said in my guide, it's like a second ultimage on a 1 minute cooldown. I think you would maximize damage earlier if you switched Archangel's Staff and Deathfire Grasp in the buy order. Other than that I like the guide!

Also, if you are looking to put pictures in your guide without having to take them off the internet, just type in the following without the quotes, "Your Item". You can also change the size by typing "Your Item". If you have any problems with it, just pm me.

I do not get deathfire grasp right away because I like the survivability of ROA. If you really think it is a necessity, get it earlier, but I think it is best to get it late

Why don't you get DFG earlier in game? It's a minimum of 200 dmg no matter what your ap/opponent healt is. It gives you the extra burst to dominate from the beginning

I'm thinking you're noob... -1

thanks for plus one and yes that is a short joke

Hey! Is that a short joke?

Nice work! SOunds like you are a pro with veig. Thanks for the plus 1.

Gj ! my stats with this build 11-0-9

Thank you very much for the +1 means a lot. I am sorry but I do not know how to do that.
I just took pics from internet and then inserted them