And this is why your guide will never receive a positive rating, you can't take criticism. You as a guide writer are writing this guide to help others, not so others can help you improve. Therefore, publishing an unfinished guide is unprofessional and shows you lack either the knowledge or the motivation to truly help people learn the champ. Therefore, people will not use your guide.

I suppose I should clarify my previous comment. I didn't mean that this is not the way to jungle Karma. I meant that this is an extremely sub-optimal way of jungling her, so why would you ever have a reason to do so? I accept that Karma can be jungled if done right, but using this exact build would not be the easiest, most effective way of doing so....so why use it at all?

P.S. I always preferred tiger stance over phoenix, and even after pros have played Doran's Blade Udyr I still wouldn't use it. First, because udyr is an incredibly situational champ to begin with, and second, because it is far too risky a start for my liking. Not saying it doesn't work, but it just doesn't work for me. But this Karma build on the other hand...this just doesn't work period.

With unfinished I mean I will ad more stuff like counters and co.. And why don`t release it? I will get feedback and the core of the build is set up. Realy, there are finished guides with less content out there. And don`t tell me, "This is not the way to do it.". You can play a champ in different ways and this is my way. The way I want to share. If you don`t like it, don`t use it. But leave other people their rights to have opinions.. This is the reason why there are only the same champs played in the same fashion out there. I bet Dorans Blade-Tiger Stance-Udyr would have received flame from you before it was played by the pros.

Ah, yeah. You are right. Well, mistakes were made. ^_^" I knew something were off, but I couldn`t put my finger on it. o_Ò And... I never run oom with my build, at least not as long as the laning phase keeps on, so I don`t take the buff duration. It helps you early on, but if the buff runs out, other masteries just provide so much more for you in direct combat. : /

If you were to jungle Karma, this is not the way to do it. And a guide in progress should stay unpublished. I really don't get why people insist on putting out unfinished works...would you publish a book without finishing it?

your masteries are completely nonsensical. try 9/11/9 and get the increased buff duration. Also, you can't max Q at 8.