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Build Guide By JingleJimmy
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Shaco Guide
Shaco: Insanely Surprising
Mainly how on earth do you expect dominiate earlygame mid against any of the competent mids who out range you, out damage you, and can out slow/stun you? You can't just get one level in shiv and dominte early game, it's not that simple, and considering you have 3 boots, and a magic assortment of seals I don't think your damage output would be that good earlygame to back up your 'dominate' claim.
You seem to have no real plan for midgame other than avoiding team fights and pushing free lanes, lategame seems to rely on the minions pushing for you and the enemy team surrendering.
1. You still shouldn't be moving all that often to make it worth it. Mercs would benefit you MUCH more in the long run, even if you are split pushing a lot.
2. You still didn't include any in the build, which is what most people will just look at. Defensive items aren't optional on Shaco, they're completely 100% needed, as they are on any champion really, but Shaco even more, due to his stupidly bad defences.
3. Exactly my point. Flash is better.
4. You didn't directly address my point. I was looking for explanations for items, not a playstyle for Shaco.
5. I NEVER Said CDR runes were worthless. I said CrD (Crit Damage) runes were. ArP is always better than them!
6. Quoted from your guide -
"Starting items: Boots 2 HP and 1 Mana
Then get your boots > vampric scepter > sheen > inf edge > black cleaver > bloodthrister > trinity force > phantom dancer"
Your build says -
Boots > BT > Triforce > IE > BC > PD
That's a completely different order.
7. Please. Everyone dies. Don't act like you've never died before. As a quick example, in Epik Gaming vs Fnatic today, xPeke died 12 times, and Fnatic still won. The lowest amount of deaths in that match was 2, and on carries 4 in a super high Elo game. What would you want better, 0.8 MP5 (taken from 20 MP5, which I doubt you'll have, but whatever) or 10% less death times to get a MUCH better late game? Those 6-7 seconds really count, and can mean stopping your opponent from doing Baron or being forced to give them it, for example.
well said!
Sorry i couldn't resist commenting ^.^
2. You still didn't include any in the build, which is what most people will just look at. Defensive items aren't optional on Shaco, they're completely 100% needed, as they are on any champion really, but Shaco even more, due to his stupidly bad defences.
3. Exactly my point. Flash is better.
4. You didn't directly address my point. I was looking for explanations for items, not a playstyle for Shaco.
5. I NEVER Said CDR runes were worthless. I said CrD (Crit Damage) runes were. ArP is always better than them!
6. Quoted from your guide -
"Starting items: Boots 2 HP and 1 Mana
Then get your boots > vampric scepter > sheen > inf edge > black cleaver > bloodthrister > trinity force > phantom dancer"
Your build says -
Boots > BT > Triforce > IE > BC > PD
That's a completely different order.
7. Please. Everyone dies. Don't act like you've never died before. As a quick example, in Epik Gaming vs Fnatic today, xPeke died 12 times, and Fnatic still won. The lowest amount of deaths in that match was 2, and on carries 4 in a super high Elo game. What would you want better, 0.8 MP5 (taken from 20 MP5, which I doubt you'll have, but whatever) or 10% less death times to get a MUCH better late game? Those 6-7 seconds really count, and can mean stopping your opponent from doing Baron or being forced to give them it, for example.
Nope, it has completely no team fight presence, and half decent players won't kill your R/go into your W, so the damage from E is negligible.
As far as the build goes, Boots of Mobility are a definite no-no, since you're not roaming or jungling. Berserker's are questionable, but whatever.
Late game you end up having no sort of resistance whatsoever, and Shaco has TERRIBLE defences, they really are paper thin. He NEEDS a Banshee's/GA/something pretty early on (I'd say after your Triforce) or he will be instagibbed in team fights.
Ranking Flash over Ghost/Teleport is also extremely questionable. You have your Q, sure, but you don't have it 100% of the time. 10x Flash teams aren't popular for no reason.
There's not too much explanation either, you state the items (in a different order than them in your build in the guide) without ANY explanation. Why is it better to get X than Y?
CrD runes are worthless. Even for Tryndamere, maths has proven that ArP > CrD, even for Shaco's Q. ArP is always going to be better!
As for masteries, why don't you take Good Hands?...
1- boots of mobility are because mid game i run sidelanes alot to solo push
2- i posted some situational items and said it is a good idea to replace black cleaver for a dfensive item based on enemy team
3- i didnt rank fglash over ghost/teleport i went teleport ghost flash
4- people play shaco in different ways if i explained to far people would try my gamestyler not theirs im aggresive as **** and if i told people to be it might mess up their usual defensive playstyle
5- CDR runes are not worthless because i put flat for the early game harassment for my E e isnt affected by your arp and besides early game domination helps alot
6- the item order will end up looking like the order for the build if you tried it or thought even a little bit about it you would see
6-good hands? whats that? i dont know cause i dont die =P
people who do hybrid shaco usually SUCK, but for people who practice it, they can rock it, also please comment on the build/guide
Nope, it has completely no team fight presence, and half decent players won't kill your R/go into your W, so the damage from E is negligible.
As far as the build goes, Boots of Mobility are a definite no-no, since you're not roaming or jungling. Berserker's are questionable, but whatever.
Late game you end up having no sort of resistance whatsoever, and Shaco has TERRIBLE defences, they really are paper thin. He NEEDS a Banshee's/GA/something pretty early on (I'd say after your Triforce) or he will be instagibbed in team fights.
Ranking Flash over Ghost/Teleport is also extremely questionable. You have your Q, sure, but you don't have it 100% of the time. 10x Flash teams aren't popular for no reason.
There's not too much explanation either, you state the items (in a different order than them in your build in the guide) without ANY explanation. Why is it better to get X than Y?
CrD runes are worthless. Even for Tryndamere, maths has proven that ArP > CrD, even for Shaco's Q. ArP is always going to be better!
As for masteries, why don't you take Good Hands?...
I hope you're trolling.
people who do hybrid shaco usually SUCK, but for people who practice it, they can rock it, also please comment on the build/guide
umm so u build att damage shaco you should 1v1 me with my abilty/AD shaco
I hope you're trolling.
umm so u build att damage shaco you should 1v1 me with my abilty/AD shaco
yeah yeah, i know that hybrid shaco is the best shaco but alot of people cant stand playing hybrid, including me, also dont knock this build till you try it.