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Yes I play on NA
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I mean... I can keep naming. There are a lot of junglers better then Shen ALWAYS available. Even if you ban top 6 junglers (whoever you think they are), I still think even many unconventional junglers like Fizz can still jungle better then Shen.
I didn't vote, and probably not going to... Just expressed my opinion on what I think is really a wrong thing to do.
No real need. I've seen jungle Shens before. And I already said what I think about their effeciency. If you are good with jungle Shen, you'd be 10 times better with another jungler.
Still, are you playing on NA?
Sure he's not as fast a jungler as Lee Sin but when is Lee and Rammus ever not banned anymore?
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Puutting a thumbs down to "every jungle shen guide you see" means you're a troll and have no merit posting in my build to begin with.
I take E 2nd because if mid or top lanes are very aggressive you now have an avenue to get in there and assist on the kill quickly before resuming your path. MANY times after I take blue and start wolves the top is battling hard and I can just cruise up there, taunt, secure the kill for top which gives him game lane dominance, drop a ward for him and carry on and by the time I make it back top he's 2 levels and a kill or 2 up on his opponent.
With this being said I encourage you to keep shen to support bottom or even solo top, he does very well there now as I have dominated with him top a few times. Keep your team composition better balanced and choose another jungler that can actually live up to the expectations of a great jungler.
-Attack speed marks in lieu of attack damage. You will proc your passive more often, yielding comparable sustained damage as well as higher energy generation and better up time on your life tap.
-Armor seals. The added durability will permit you to start with a Ruby Crystal, which will build into your (hopefully sooner) Heart of Gold and better synergize with your passive and Vorpal Blade.
-Armor penetration quints. Without the extra armor pen, your already slow jungle time will grind to a halt.
Imo, he's one of the worst junglers. His speed is even slower then WW's, his ganks really suck (aside from a skillshot 1.5 sec. taunt he has nothing) and he is just not worth to give up that jungling place.
Pretty much any jungler > Shen right now.
He's just not designed for that.
Why people keep ignoring him as a botlane support, that's what I don't understant. He seems to be a great one. Much like Leona, he acts through tanking damage and putting CC on people. Also, since Vorpal Blade's heal has been buffed significantly, that makes him even stronger.
But jungle Shen... I mean, if someone can successfully jungle him, I reckon they'd be 10 times better with Lee Sin or Nocturne who were actually designed for jungling.
Give me any aspect in which jungle Shen is good and I'll give you 3 other junglers that do this thing better then him. But so far, all I've seen is that jungle Shen is just bad. Prove me wrong, if you can...