Outdated anymore?

Btw: Nunu W procs Aery. If you ever wanted to give that ADC 80% Attack Speed with Ardent Censer.^^

Nunu can't proc Aftershock, it doesn't work with slows.

Hey Nighthawk,

Can you take your time when reading my guide please, thanks :) My guide says to get Seraph's Embrace as 3rd item (which is build from Tear), Eye of the Watchers and Lucidity boots are completed before that, thus the point is invalid. And exactly for this reason which you mention and I quote 'spamming 1 skill every 5 seconds' is why you need to have Tear, spamming this skill costs ALOT of mana, and getting Seraph's Embrace is thus a PERFECT option to solve this problem.

The cooldown of the shield is 120secs. thus you indeed won't be using the shield often, but it's a nice backup, you can compare it to the summoner spell shield, this build is different than most which makes the way you play Nunu also different, he's squishy but impacts the game hugely.

As for smite on a support, I like the way of implementing new things but I'm not confident about it because your Q already consumes for so much, and you will basically be a summoner down in a 2v2 lane, if you get in sync well with your jungler you can easily take objectives such as dragon or secure scuttle crabs quickly enough.

But hey that's just my point of view, for me it works.

Take care :)

so, first tear items are quite bad for nunu considering you're spamming maybe 1 skill every 5 seconds and nunu doesn't/shouldn't really be making use of the shield to often, 2nd thing about that is that getting tear early delays your spellthiefs sighstone or boots quite heavily for literally no combat or utility effectiveness. i also think you have to much ap, considering nunu ult already does a **** ton of dmg without any ap whatsoever, i dont think you need to stack it. i also think if you're going to pick nunu you might as well go all the way and take smite cinderhulk for better objective control, and you dont necessarily give up that much vs exhaust

Hey norvelas,

Glad to see you've been using my build/guide :) It indeed is, whilst you're still providing the wards for your team with Eye of the Watchers. All my builds are focused on making, even the most boring and most odd supports, more impactful in games.

When I pick up a new champion and start learning them I figure out what build suits that champion the best by myself, and I must say I really love doing that, making unexpected champions strong and useful :D

If you like a certain champion or have one you wanna get better at I'll gladly look into it and give tips on what to buy.

Take care and keep having fun with Nunu haha ;)

i personally have had a lot of success with this build. i think of this build as a way to harass non stop while sustaining in lane; bully the opponent out of lane to gain advantage. since i started using this build, nunu has become one of my favorite harrass supports and honestly, the strongest one yet IMO. also, because of the sustain and mana regen early on, i can "deny" farm from opponent marksman

Heys,

@NicknameMy I've got pretty bound to Talisman of Ascension I must say I find it the most powerful support item especially because of it's active which can boost the speed of all 5 teammates, super handy not only during laning phase but also in late game it will give alot options for saves and engages. I think this is more useful than have those extra wards that you have to recharge constantly at base, in my opinion stats>vision (for example your team can have the whole map lit up but with what stats will you down the enemy team). You can be so much more useful as support if you sacrifice some of that vision and have your team work more together using trinkets for the vision.

You may also wanna read my post about vision/Talisman on my Soraka guide second page (on 18 November 2015): http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/support-soraka-outhealing-your-enemies-dps-5-24-season-6-423446/discussion?page=2

But back to the itemization, Talisman gives you a nice early 10%, together with Lucidity boots you get another 10% which you can precisely cap out to 40% with Athene's.

Also I don't think the Tribute passive can proc enough to gain more gold than Talisman. I'm pretty sure Liandry's does indeed more damage than Zhonya's but Zhonya's is really sweet since you are so squishy it's nice to have that 2sec statis where your team finishes off the enemy if someone tries to dive you. Rod of Ages is indeed a great item which alot people forget but I feel like the 20 extra AP can be sacrificed also it takes a while to scale up, I feel like scaling up items are only worth if you get them as 2nd item, or eventually first, third item could eventually work if you're building Rod of Ages and Archangel's Staff on for example Ryze.

I kind of notice that you like to build HP as survivability. But honestly you don't really need that HP with all the mobility which is also partly provided by Luden's Echo, if someone tries to get close to you, you smack em with your snowball which is pretty much always up and you'll pretty much always have mana for it due to Athene's. You basically zone people, they won't be able to get near you with all the speed you have and all the slows you can apply to them. Zhonya's can be your way out of dives, but Lucidity boots and the Insight mastery gives you quite a bunch cdr on your exhaust and flash, so you should be safe.

Ofcourse the items you mentioned could work but I don't think they synergize as well.

@Vynertje I don't think hopeless was necessarily, also I don't think it's a super bad item but it's not a super good item for Nunu in my opinion either, I do agree that procing of the tribute passive isn't that optimal, and also one of the reasons I don't choose it, even on champions that can proc it easily. And yes, Spellthief/AP is a terrible way to build Tahm Kench, lol. But when you say AP Nunu support is terrible I must completely disagree, and my first question to you is have you tried it? Let me mention that 3 of the 4 skills are purely based on AP lol.

*insert ad for epic Tahm Kench guide with special effects, lol* http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/support-tahm-kench-to-spit-or-to-swallow-5-24-season-6-433887

I don't mind people being against the guide, I mean it's all preference on how you play a certain champion, but I feel like this way of playing Nunu/other supports makes things so much more fun and the game alot spicier. Rather than the casual ''must be in meta stuff'' because most people don't bother trying new stuff and don't even realize it's good, they're stuck with their heads in, supports are only useful ward duties, they have no damage at all, basic attacks of supports don't do damage and cost mana, those kind of exaggerated examples. I mean look at Trundle, it's an old champion that was only played top/jungle. Fnatic brought it to pro gaming and now we see it in solo queue aswell. If you build your items that scale with your champion and put your skill points in the right order, you can pretty much play anything as support, I even play Shaco as support and make it work, it's fun as heck.

Also random announcement: fixed back the masteries from cunning tree to what it was, ever since precision got updated it messed it up.

Take care (:

the guide isn't talking about blue support item doe

So what you are doing here if you are against the concept of the guide?

AP nunu support is terrible to begin with. You shouldn't start spellthief on Nunu support, period.

But this guide is about AP Nunu support which buillies his enemy out of lane. So which starting item is the best in your opinion in that situation?^^

You're hopeless...

because nunu is terrible at proc'ing Spellthief's Edge to start with and that as support, he should primarily be played as a tank rather than a secondary mage. It's the same level of stupidity as Tahm'Kench with spellthief's.