Alistar Build Guide : Support, Top, Mid - The Encyclopedia of Cow [S6]

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quick question'

for the runes, wouldnt greater Seal of Scaling Health be a better option for Alistar?

nice guide tho has helped me a ton with acheiving S grades hahah

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quick question'

for the runes, wouldnt greater Seal of Scaling Health be a better option for Alistar?

nice guide tho has helped me a ton with acheiving S grades hahah

Hey there,

I like both scaling and flat health seals, but I put flat health on the page since it's more generally liked by most people.

Generally, my rule is:
-Don't need health early game? (i.e. versus , , etc.) Scaling health.
-Need sustain? (i.e. versus or ) Health regen.
-Need to be tanky early? (i.e. versus , , to survive all-ins) Flat health.
-Wanna be aggressive? (versus anyone) Movement speed, flat health, and/or AD or attack speed.

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You mind if I make a translation of your guide for people who unfortunately does not control either the English? regards C:

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So I decided to get serious with Alistar after knocking around a few plays.

I totally neglect a lot of strategy when playing all together but I see that you talked about (passive) added use "when peeling someone away with your abilities". I'm probably being a total doofus but is this suggesting that while you "walk through minions" you can still use your size/body as a to block enemy champions (units)? Would this play more into initiating/engaging in lane? My interpretation of this is that you can through creep waves and still cause the enemy some frustration by forcing them to have to walk around you say if they get trapped behind a creep wave - giving you more space on your half to apply pressure?

I'm a total scrub and this is the second guide I've focused on trying to understand in-depth.

RE: " also gains the ability to pass through units for the 3 second duration. Approaching units will still attempt to walk around you, which is awesome because if you are peeling someone away with your abilities, they still have to walk around you (great with )." However, you really shouldn't be trying to use this passive as an escape tool to walk through minions if you are being chased, because most of his abilities take up a significant amount of time to cast. I find this part of only good when I an enemy to harass and then quickly sinking behind the minion wave to farm or disengage so they can't retaliate without going around the wave."

What you're saying is correct.

Yes, you can bodyblock people even when is on. An example for this situation would be, you WQ someone running at your ADC. If you position yourself between your ADC and the enemy, the enemy has to run around you, though you're free to move wherever you want. It will only make like a .1 or .2 second difference but that could be the difference between the ADC surviving or not.

Yes, you can harass someone and sink behind the minion wave. I like doing this when I'm top lane. WQ--autoattack, then walk backwards into your minion wave so they can't trade back. Works great with !

Another great example is, say your opponent starts taking creep aggro from a huge wave (and possibly tower aggro). You could Q- them and then them backwards behind the giant creep wave. Then they'll be stuck there and forced to walk around, taking tons of damage from minions (and possibly tower). However, you have the freedom of walking through your minion wave to finish them off with autoattacks and DoT.

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So I decided to get serious with Alistar after knocking around a few plays.

I totally neglect a lot of strategy when playing all together but I see that you talked about (passive) added use "when peeling someone away with your abilities". I'm probably being a total doofus but is this suggesting that while you "walk through minions" you can still use your size/body as a to block enemy champions (units)? Would this play more into initiating/engaging in lane? My interpretation of this is that you can through creep waves and still cause the enemy some frustration by forcing them to have to walk around you say if they get trapped behind a creep wave - giving you more space on your half to apply pressure?

I'm a total scrub and this is the second guide I've focused on trying to understand in-depth.

RE: " also gains the ability to pass through units for the 3 second duration. Approaching units will still attempt to walk around you, which is awesome because if you are peeling someone away with your abilities, they still have to walk around you (great with )." However, you really shouldn't be trying to use this passive as an escape tool to walk through minions if you are being chased, because most of his abilities take up a significant amount of time to cast. I find this part of only good when I an enemy to harass and then quickly sinking behind the minion wave to farm or disengage so they can't retaliate without going around the wave."

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The best guide I ever read, by amount of informations and dynamics. It also helped to increase my game knowlegde as well. Thanks! I'll never forget you.

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Please I want the Alistar's jungle guide. I can't wait more for play him im all the positions (except ADC)

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well here lately ive been playing ap ali top lane. and after this guide it helped alot. i went 19/8/14 i had sorc's boots,lich,echo,deathcap,rylies and frost queens claim i rushed. but at end of game for last item i swaped it for grail. it worked great. and had 30% cdr too. witch was great.

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Love the guide. tho you did make one tiny mistake. on your dps/cdr you said it gives you 40%/45% with mastery but your wrong. that build only gives 30%/35% with mastery. just pointing that out. but over all i love the guide. im gonna be applying it right now. unless you was thinking boots of lucidity was there. instead of sorcery boots...

Are you talking about for AP Mid? My intended build for 45% CDR was , , and , which should give 40% CDR in total. You can swap some things around too if you want. I've found pretty good success with 10% CDR at level 18 glyphs and skipping FQC.

Personally I'm not a big fan of CDR boots on AP Mid Alistar just cause his ratios aren't the best. Bad ratios scale better with penetration.

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Love the guide. tho you did make one tiny mistake. on your dps/cdr you said it gives you 40%/45% with mastery but your wrong. that build only gives 30%/35% with mastery. just pointing that out. but over all i love the guide. im gonna be applying it right now. unless you was thinking boots of lucidity was there. instead of sorcery boots...

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I´ve created an account in mobafire after using it for 2+ years just to Say thank you, sir you are a Cow god. Excellent guide the most complete one i´ve ever read. +1 loveya

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Question! Why do you take Windspeaker's Blessing on this guy, any thoughts on his sinergy with Bond? Which one of these two is better with Ali? Did the nerfs on his heal in this patch change anything?

Hey there, so I think is better on Alistar for a couple of reasons. is AoE, meaning you buff your entire team with armor and MR, versus only buffs one other person. Your heal is also super spammable, especially with 45% CDR. The only other champ out there with a spammable AoE heal/shield is , and maybe . Everyone else is either single target heal/shield (Taric, Janna, Soraka, Thresh), or it's an ultimate (Soraka and Janna). I guess items like Locket, FotM, Mikael's sorta count but eh, point is, you can buff everyone, constantly.

But it's really all personal preference. is good cause Windspeaker's doesn't boost Alistar's own damage reduction; it only helps him heal himself and others. It's also pure damage reduction, so they can't counter with armor/magic penetration. Bond of Stone also makes early tower dives safer and makes you significantly tankier, so it's better for going all-in (or defending from an all in, especially in lane with your ADC). I'd grab it if you want to be aggressive in lane, or just outright tankier.

So tl;dr WB helps your entire team out, BoS helps yourself out (plus one more I guess). 5>2.

As for the heal nerfs, to be honest, it was seriously due. You've got + , making your heals from both and much more significant. It was pretty broken for a while. The mana cost increase just brings the mana efficiency back to normal, along with the CD increase helping out, though you shouldn't be spamming heal too often in lane anyways.

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Question! Why do you take Windspeaker's Blessing on this guy, any thoughts on his sinergy with Bond? Which one of these two is better with Ali? Did the nerfs on his heal in this patch change anything?

Support, Top, Mid - The Encyclopedia of Cow [S6]

Support, Top, Mid - The Encyclopedia of Cow [S6]

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