More Price Reductions! (Poppy and Garen)

[quote=ShadowNet]Still they need to buff his cooldowns, turret diving at level 1, true damage judgment and nerf his mana per level.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]That's great for my EU account, obviusly till they'll finally start transfer accounts. I can get a summoner lvl 7 poppy and rape around[/quote]

[quote=AFKwithyoursister][quote=ShadowNet] Still they need to buff his cooldowns, turret diving at level 1, true damage judgment and nerf his mana per level. [/quote] Mana per level, on Garen you say?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Garen is a little OP atm, but definitely not broken.[/quote]

[quote=Faffing]I've always been able to shut down a garen because they're so easy to predict. Plus, isn't Garen generally an early to mid game hero? His passive only really benefits him during early game and the only viable item build forces him to be very lack luster in team fights late game because the only thing he brings to the table is a silence and a ult that most people don't seem to be able to time too well[/quote]

[quote=Mastarwe][quote=Faffing] I've always been able to shut down a garen because they're so easy to predict. Plus, isn't Garen generally an early to mid game hero? His passive only really benefits him during early game and the only viable item build forces him to be very lack luster in team fights late game because the only thing he brings to the table is a silence and a ult that most people don't seem to be able to time too well [/quote] Garen is indeed very much a early-midgame hero and isn't OP. Even though his [[courage]] got buffed he's still easy to zone/harass in early game, making him nearly useless in lategame. And if you find him OP you're just missing cc, which makes almost any bruiser/assassin OP.[/quote]

[quote=Tsikinator]Exactly what the above 2 posters said. Also, l2p against him. You can easily shut him down effectively for his early-mid game. Then he does nothing at all. Easiest way? Ward edge of bush and don't facecheck. Proest way? Outzone him. Nowhere near as OP as Orianna or some other tier 1 champs I can think of.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Garen beats any meele on top. That's the biggest problem... ohh and 2.5 sec silence at lvl 1? rly?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]If you want to cry, go to league of legends forum and cry with them...[/quote]

[quote=Queso][quote=PotatisFarfar] Garen beats any meele on top. That's the biggest problem... ohh and 2.5 sec silence at lvl 1? rly? [/quote] Pantheon can handle him pretty decently in my experience. Passive that can block your Q every 4 casts or attacks and Spear Shot harass is a bitch. Of course i was the lowest elo on my team and the pantheon was the highest on the enemy team so maybe I just couldn't compete.[/quote]