Doran's Blade

[quote=Svingas]What are your views on buying a Doran's blade as your starting item for jungling. I am watching Rainman's stream and the jungle lee sin on his team started with Doran's Blade.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Doran's Blade isn't uncommon now. Lee Sin could start with that before the jungle change for some aggressive level 2 ganks, especially on top lane once he clears double golems. I've seen some jungler (I think it was Lapaka, not sure) run it on Tiger Udyr for some early game aggression. It's more common for jungles who don't rush Wriggle's, and it promotes powerful early ganks on champions with good AD ratios. Saintvicious jungles Doran's Shield on quite a couple champions now. Doran's Ring is viable on Fiddle and Cho'Gath.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The thing about Lee is he can literally start with anything and almost anywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if he can jungle with an Amp tome.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]I'm just curious about whether this is a better option than vampiric scepter on say nocturne or xin.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Hmm, could [[master yi]] start with [[doran's blade]] and [[vampirism]]? Just a question.^^[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]I've used it on Riven a couple times and she could actually start doran's blade before the jungle changes. It's much faster and about as safe, though you may be a bit lower. Tbh, if you know they won't be counterjungle that much then it would probably be best to start with a doran's blade.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]I usually start with a long sword for WW. Would it still be best to stick to that for WW so that you can get wriggles as soon as possible?[/quote]

[quote=Khazem][quote=Svingas] I usually start with a long sword for WW. Would it still be best to stick to that for WW so that you can get wriggles as soon as possible? [/quote] Yes. The purpose of starting with a [[doran's blade]] is for very strong level 2 ganks or agressive counter jungling early on, in which champions like [[lee sin]] and [[riven]] excell. You can get away with starting [[doran's blade]] on a lot of champions but it's usually not worth it (except on above mentioned champions)[/quote]

[quote=Strway]What runes you need to start with blade on riven?[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]according to oddone, dorans blade start vs ap, cloth armor start vs AD[/quote]