I tried the support build out, and it turned out rather well. I didn't need to get a second Gp10 item because I would take 2 casters minions every wave (carries should be able to let that go) when the carry was near and from the early assists or kill-secures I got. It was rather fun to play more so than when I tried to do a 0 creep score Janna.

So I would say leave it as is, but do put Kage's Lucky Pick as a good item if you are having problems earning gold (carry insists they get EVERY last hit, not able to zone the enemy carry enough, etc, etc). It would be far more useful to just buy that item than have your carry whine for taking all of his farm even though it's only 2 minions every wave. You could also note that as the support you should probably not get the Rabadon's Deathcap at the end so you have room for wards

to Xenasis:

I would like to add a few words to this if you don't mind. Lux is an aggressive support similar to Leona and Karma. Instead of babysitting the carry and heal/shielding them when they start to get focused, you try to bully the enemy out of the lane and zone them. Lux does this with her range on her spells, where Leona jumps in and attempts to stun-lock the carry so that the friendly one can get off a bunch of hits. While the similarities between her and Karma are that they need some AP to be good supports thus can't just sit on Gp10 items, aura items, and wards. Yes wards are essential on a support and your gold for these comes from assists that you manage to get early game and minions you farmed while your carry was away (recalled) or the carry is not able to reach for the last hit before they die to fellow minions. Gp10 items are useful however you can't solely rely on it for your gold income. Example Karma needs to rush a Rod of Ages to cure her out of mana problem early game, it would take ridiculously longer if all she has for money is her Gp10 items.

Morello's Evil Tome is taken for the cooldown, AP and mana regen. Since Lux is an aggressive support you want to harass the enemy a lot most likely with Lucent Singularity (to hurt around minions) and if your carry joins in Light Binding as well. This can lead you to being out of mana rather quickly so the mana regen helps. The early AP helps them hit harder, also the cooldown reduction lets you use your spells more often when they have higher cool downs at the lower levels so you can harass more. Another reason for getting cooldown reduction on her lets her use her ult more often and sometimes even use it to steal dragon or baron (if you are a mid champ run halfway up the river, shoot, steal, return to lane) from the enemy.

Void Staff: The reason for taking this in my opinion is so your spells hit harder. Sure it won't be big damage against high resist until you get it later on, but it'll be small damage against low resist. I guess the main reason is so that your passive will still help you do damage as it starts to wane off by the end of mid-game.

Lich Bane: The reason for taking this early on is that it has great synergy with your passive. Your passive causes extra damage on an auto attack, and the passive on this increases the damage of said auto attack.

you say that these two items are only good after a bit of AP is acquired. Let's see Morello's gives you 75AP, Void Staff gives you 70AP, and Lich Bane gives you 80AP. That sounds like more then a bit of AP to me. Rabadon's is only grabbed at the end as a good way to round off the build while boosting her damage. Alternatively you could skip it to have room for wards.

You say all supports should do is buy Gp10 items, aura items, and wards. That works for someone like Janna or Soraka not Lux by doing that you aren't getting enough AP to make yourself better at your supporting (you need more then just Kage's Lucky Pick).

Yes Lux's shield isn't as great as Janna's as it has low base shield amount and a rather small AP ratio but it can however be refreshed instantly during the same cast (once out once coming back). Plus Lux is meant to be attacking, harassing and trying to zone the enemy carry to prevent them from farming or getting near your carry to hurt them. Not just shielding your carry for the whole time, your shield can be used to prevent DoTs from harming your carry, taking the brunt (not all just most) of an assault off and other stuff, but not completely relied on.

Yes you can say you are playing her inferior to any other pure support like Janna, Soraka, Taric or who ever. However that doesn't make her any less viable than supports like a Shen (no instant heal(requires them to auto attack target), no other person shield(other then ult but wasted if used on the carry beside you), and his taunt to disrupt the carry), Alistar (minor heal that can kinda be spammed, mostly has CC to disrupt the carry), or Leona (like I said try to turn your lane into a kill lane and just kill the carry, or badly injure them enough to recall instead of zoning them)



The only evidence you provide is yourself saying it's bad, and your opinion on the waste of the CDR. In my opinion an ult that can easily snipe people that run away, can burn easily through 1/4 of everyone's health, all on a 24 seconds cooldown (max CDR), is like the best thing ever. Like you said just because somebody else says something doesn't make it true. Thus you just diffused your own argument, just because you say Morello's is bad doesn't mean it is.

in answer to your citation needed section:



Author is stating that Lux isn't like other mages she's more utility than burst like them (she has burst but not as high as say LeBlanc). Instead of killing people out right she gives them handicaps like snares or slows to help people set up a gank on them or to let her get another round of burst damage on them.



best way to answer this is referencing the strategy wiki page for her.
- Cooldown Reduction is also desirable, especially to free up usage of Finales Funkeln. Again, choices should be more offensive-geared, such as Morello's Evil Tome.
- Since Lux's ultimate, Finales Funkeln, has a relatively low cooldown and long range, it is best to stack up on AP and cooldown reduction to make it more potent and effective in weakening enemy champions before or during a team fight. Finales Funkeln can also finish off enemy champions on low health that are retreating.

I would say with this evidence I have provided, proves that CDR is very good on Lux, making your case about Morello's Evil Tome invalid. The only reason you mention that item is bad is the CDR, you appear to have not noticed the AP and mana regen also associated with the item.

To the author:

Sorry about the big wall of text, but I needed to say a few things. People like that ruin the game because they believe in the dumb metagame. Hence the many references to Janna a support that can do 0 creep score. While the only items they have buff others and not help themselves in a more direct fashion ( Zeke's Herald on someone who could probably use AP more than attack speed with life steal). I for one hate it, example if Taric could get some AP his heal would be much better, and he makes little to no use of his passive for mana regen because it might steal minion kills from the carry, or Janna could really use AP since her shield has a really good ratio (90% of AP) which would let her make it extremely tough to break especially since she can put it on turrets. Anyways...

+1 from me, it's nice to see someone has a moderate concept of aggressive supports. Though I have to admit a second Gp10 item should be considered. You could get a Heart of Gold then sell it or buy a Locket of the Iron Solari, or the one I would recommend more would be Kage's Lucky Pick the reason why is it gives you the gold bonus plus it gives you AP which would allow you harass better early game, then I would recommend just selling it when you need the room for your other items. Clairvoyance should be taken a lot of people don't because they don't know how to use it properly. Usually the carry you are supporting are also normally carrying Heal and having two of them might be a little redundant (carry uses theirs to heal them up you notice they are low health so you use yours as well but only for 50% of what it should be, then neither of you have it for the next engagement).

Specolar

I think you should discuss (far) more alternatives in all of your sections, situational items, etc. The build won't/shouldn't be the same every single game!

Other that that the rest boils down to the build, you argue for Morello's, I clearly argue against it.

You mentioned CV was nerfed and isn't used much - but that shouldn't deter you from taking it, especially since you can't fuel your wards very well - I'd say it is a must if you do insist on going support Lux as you do.

Either way I don't really want to talk about that any more I'd just like to know if you actually read the guide? I'd just like your opinion on that, whether you believe it or not I genuinely do not have a bad opinion of you even though you don't agree with me it's not in my nature I simply want to hear your opinion of the entire guide. I'd like to know if I at least have right in your view.

The difference being I had evidence for my argument being correct whereas you didn't.

If I said "The grass is green, look, here are some blades and it's structure of chloroplasts", this argument's the equivalent of you saying "LOL NO IT'S RED".

In all honesty I don't really see the point in diffusing your arguments it's very clear to how you stated them, that you not only don't know the champion very well but don't really care to see the other's opinion either.

I accept the down vote fully as I have said it is your opinion and that's all that matters, it also doesn't mean I need to agree with it. I'm sorry for angering you or sickening you or whatever I may have done, but I'm not really interested in continuing the argument.

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Past experiences don't exactly count towards viability. You either get item starved or ward/Oracle starved with that build. If you don't your not warding enough.


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Rod of Ages (optimal early)/Banshee's (if you insist on not getting it late).



I didn't say it was. Morello's simply isn't a good item. I presented a lot of good evidence as to why it's even worse on Lux, though you've ignored that (since you can't counteract that argument), and haven't attempted to diffuse any of my arguments. Stating something doesn't mean it's true. Reasoning is key - and I haven't seen any presented. Don't listen to what others have to say - just because somebody else says something (such as Morello's being good) doesn't mean it's true.

There's a reason pro players don't play champions "that way", you know. I've never been one to follow sheepishly, and I have never really succumbed to FotM champions - though they know how to play the game, there's no doubt about that, it's THEIR JOB.

Well then you're opinion is noted but quite simply Lux is not "any other mage", Lux is entirely about having the lowest CD's as she can get, that is the whole point in her as a champion. As for the whole Support thing, whether you agree or not is your choice, I personally have had absolutely no trouble with getting wards at all. I have 6/6 wins as Support Lux in the past 2 days and my last Lux game was a defeat and I was playing my first build with a poor team. If you have decided to down vote the guide that is fine, I wouldn't hold anything like that against anyone it's you're opinion and I respect that I just don't agree with your blatant hatred towards Morello's, I agree it isn't exactly great on "any other mage" but as I have said this is not the role that Lux plays. I feel my build is at least close to optimal, as IceCreamy said only Rylai's is arguable but then again a 6th item on Lux is debated all the time because nobody really knows what the best option is.

Lastly, just because a "Pro" player doesn't build a champion a particular way does not mean that the build is instantly horrible and an item is disgusting, it simply means that they don't play the champion that way.

Care to give me any reasoning? I presented a lot, just saying "LOLNO U BAD" really doesn't contribute to anything now, does it?

As I mentioned, Morello's SUCKS on Lux (even more than other casters) because of her short cooldowns. The lower your cooldowns the worse the item is. Lux's ult is very low.

Ignite is good on any caster. Shuts down anybody with a heal, if your caster doesn't get it then who will? Top has TP, jungle has Smite, bot has CV/Exhaust, respectively. If it's blind pick it's GG.

RoA is good on any caster, the earlier you get it the better, even if it isn't optimal at that point in the game, don't tell me you'd turn down those stats later on.

@Sutherland
Care to give me reasoning for Morello's Tome? It's a terrible item on ANY caster.

You'd be far better off getting a kill than having lower cooldowns. Fights simply don't last over 24 seconds to begin with unless it's a really unique encounter. This metagame is a bursty one, too. Kill fast or be killed faster. See also: Graves, Kassadin,


If you're "support Lux", why do you get a Void Staff and Lich Bane, especially before a Deathcap when both of those are only ever useful after a bit of AP. Lux can't support, anyway. She has a root and that's about it. Her shield is bad and it's not seriously anything that could contend with, say, Janna.

Supports should basically get -
Philo, wards, HoG, wards, Kage's, wards,
Ward ward wards
Occasional Oracle's
Shurelia's and an Aegis

And that's a step by step guide to playing a support. Before you pull the whole "But I don't build her like that! This is my build!" - you're playing her inferior to any other support. You simply don't have enough gold to support your warding. You seriously can't get all of your gold from a single Philosopher Stone that you only get after your boots.



Sorry but just from the Morello's argument alone I feel the need to downvote this. As some tips, watch some high Elo streams or matches, I mean I know Lux isn't played a lot (though she's still built almost the same as any other caster), but I know someone from Xan plays her, if my memory serves me correctly.

Thanks for you information some of it I will look at and see what I will do, the second build is support Lux by the way, I'm not supposed to have Rabadon's instantly I'm not there to get the kills. However, I just don't agree with the Morello's Evil Tome, I feel that it is essential on Lux and I'd say about 90% of Lux player's would agree with me.

^ I lolled really hard, you make it painfully obvious that you don't play Lux at all.

RoA is bad, Ignite is bad, Morello's is good...

*sigh.

The build is good, only Rylai's is doubtful.

Didn't vote either way, but here's some constructive criticism -

Honestly the item order is terrible.

Never ever ever ever get a Morello's on casters.

Ever. Only champion it's good for is Soraka. You'd far more want to finish people off than be able to use a spell again 1s less or something. It's more true for Lux because of her already low CD ult. CDR on her is far, far worse than it is on, say, Zilean.

Always start with boots and potions on Lux. Doran's Ring is only good as a starting item for Gragas, nobody else.

Rush a Rod of Ages, then get a Deathcap. You need the stats from the RoA both for lane sustain and the fact they mature to be even better later on. Awesome item, and it's a shame you missed it.

You shouldn't need teleport. Take Ignite instead.

Your second build makes me want to cry. Nothing is maxed first, you finish boots before GP10, get deathcap last, and get CDR boots rather than MPen boots.