Udyr?

[quote=Luther3000]Xin has good ganks and there's nothing really wrong with him as a jungler, his problem is that he becomes terrible later in the game unless he gets fed.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]Btw. if you want to learn how to jungle right. Then watch the 'Team Battle ChampX' Videos of Stonewall008. He always explains much in these vids and you can always learn sth. For example: Counter jungling. Going into enemy jungle once and steal wraith is not counter jungling, if you are doing it, do it constantly. For example last game I played Lee. I stole every Red buff cept his first one (jungled against skarner) then I got 2 Mana buffs for my top and my own mana buff for my mid. All buffs on my team (the own red can be given to top, too) Just Remember the spawn times: Buffs 1.55 - 5Min Respawn Small Camps 1:40 - Dunno, they spawn much faster after the patch now. Baron 15 - 14Min Respawn right? Drag - I forgot - 6 Min Respawn. If you know the enemy jungler starts at blue. The Bluebuff will most likely respawn at 7:20. You can go there and steal it at that time.[/quote]

[quote=OldBen][quote=xIchi] Small Camps 1:40 - Dunno, they spawn much faster after the patch now. Baron 15 - 14Min Respawn right? Drag - I forgot - 6 Min Respawn. If you know the enemy jungler starts at blue. The Bluebuff will most likely respawn at 7:20. You can go there and steal it at that time. [/quote] Dragon spawns on 2:30, Baron has 7 min to respawn, small camps have 60 sec. (All data picked from [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/jungling-202-beyond-the-basics-96503#chapter7]this guide[/url])[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Nighthawk] Duff did you just list jungle singed as better then Udyr...? [/quote] I feel he might be better than Udyr. [quote=xIchi] Oh well Singed is certainly a fast jungler, but I'd rank Udyr way higher. [/quote] Udyr is substantially faster than Singed at clearing, but I prefer Singed's ganks and his kit feels good to me on a team. I think he offers a lot to a teamfight.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=DuffTime] [quote=Nighthawk] Duff did you just list jungle singed as better then Udyr...? [/quote] I feel he might be better than Udyr. [quote=xIchi] Oh well Singed is certainly a fast jungler, but I'd rank Udyr way higher. [/quote] Udyr is substantially faster than Singed at clearing, but I prefer Singed's ganks and his kit feels good to me on a team. I think he offers a lot to a teamfight. [/quote] He is a WAY better ganker, and counter jungler. Singed is WAY cooler for ganks. Slow pit into fling, and it's hard not to kill a guy if you have red and a competant lane d00d with you.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=OldBen] [quote=xIchi] Small Camps 1:40 - Dunno, they spawn much faster after the patch now. Baron 15 - 14Min Respawn right? Drag - I forgot - 6 Min Respawn. If you know the enemy jungler starts at blue. The Bluebuff will most likely respawn at 7:20. You can go there and steal it at that time. [/quote] Dragon spawns on 2:30, Baron has 7 min to respawn, small camps have 60 sec. (All data picked from [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/jungling-202-beyond-the-basics-96503#chapter7]this guide[/url]) [/quote] Kill wraiths @ 1:50, they respawn at 2:40. They have 50s respawn.[/quote]

[quote=tweeboy2]Well I just tried Lee Sin out, and my ganks were horrible. I was good with team fights but I just could not hit my Q. Same goes for when I tried out Amumu. I was good at playing the role of a tank, but when I had to gank I kept missing. I'll try Xin and WW today, possibly even Udyr if my friend lets me try him out. And thank you for spawn times![/quote]

[quote=xIchi]No problem, just keep them in mind and use them to counter jungle :D and dont forget to gank much! Don't build ur ganks up to ur route but gank when its needed and possible[/quote]

[quote=zomgpwnedanoob]Nocturne might not be tanky, but he can clear jungle pretty fast and after you have Lantern you should have no problems with hp. His only skill shot is [[duskbringer]] but it moves fairly fast and goes through creeps.[/quote]