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[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Zoki] Caitlyn is strong in early game but falls off late game. She has superior range than other ranged carries. Graves is strong through whole game, has burst damage, has major AS steroid skill but has pretty short range. If you're choosing between these two, I would highly recommend Graves. Otherwise, you can consider Ezreal, Urgot(more like anti-carry) and Vayne. Otherwise, Ashe and Sivir are very good picks and they cost only 450 IP. [/quote] That's actually completely wrong :c Caitlyn and Vayne are the two carries who have the best Lategame, I think Caitlyn's weakest point is her midgame. Graves strongest point imo is his early and mid game, from what i've seen his lategame isn't as good as the others, although idk about that. ^^[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Cait is like tristana. With a bit less of escape but more utility. Her early game is quite good. Her mid is probably the worst of all AD carrys and in late she shines again due her large range.[/quote]

[quote=theMysterieZ]ok guys thx for the infos about these two chars. i have tested the two chars on the account of one of my champs. i must say i like [[Caitlyn]] more. Maybe i will buy [[Graves]] in future too. this is real a nice forum, hope all of the threads are so nice like this. :D Thx to all who helped me.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]From my experiences against Caitlyn I have to disagree. Shes best early game, and then falls off unless you can get fed. Being fed is the only way she can be good in late game, unlike champions like [[kog'maw]] that can dominate with few items.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]You can't really compare Kog'Maw with Caitlyn IMO.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] You can't really compare Kog'Maw with Caitlyn IMO. [/quote] ^this Kog is a face melter. He has no escape and only his long range keeps him safe. On top of that he is slow and squishe. Cait in comparens is a quite mobile champ with a lot of utility on the traps and good poke( I consider her ulti as poke). Her main strenge is to shut the enemy ad down early when he can't do much, but this does not change the fact that late game she is a ad carry and all ad carrys melt face to some degree on that shuts down the enemy isn't worse in that respect. That is how Urgot works bot.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]My point was not about these two champions, but rather that [[kog'maw]] is an example of mid-late game dominance, not [[caitlyn]].[/quote]

[quote=kMftw]Hello,guys.I usually play solo top champions.And I am saving for Irelia.Is she viable now,after all the nerfs and stuff :/[/quote]

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[quote=Nighthawk][quote=kMftw] Hello,guys.I usually play solo top champions.And I am saving for Irelia.Is she viable now,after all the nerfs and stuff :/ [/quote] Yes, she is still viable even after all the nerfs. She certainly isn't the best, but she can be incredibly annoying in lane and her teamfight is still pretty good. @Zoki Caitlyn's lategame damage with her passive and ult, combined with her utility from traps as an extra ward, as well as her safety with range and escape, make her lategames one of the best. She still has great utility like [[Ashe]], but has damage comparable to [[Kog'Maw]].[/quote]