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Struggling with Jayce

Creator: Technowizard1 July 7, 2012 7:11pm
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0/9/21 or 9/21/0?

Stupid question I know, but I'm currently trying loads of ideas in custom games.
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A little thing I'm doing now.

Runes - AD Marks
- Health Quints
- Armor Seals
- Magic Resist Glyphs

Masteries - 9/21/0

I start of with a Doran's Shield and I start of with my Q, I mostly harass in Ranged form and help my carry in meele by using my E.

Depending how well it goes I will build Wriggles and Hexdrinker/Merc's Treads, then a frozen mallet with Atmogs. For now it has allowed me to help my carry and still do some considerable harass, please try it out and get back to me, thanks!
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I've been against a Jungling Jayce and it wasn't nice.
He didn't gank that often, but when he did, it always netted
a kill I think. Since he would come in, use the Acceleration gate
to fire his pulse thing at us and then when we ran from the 3 man
lane, the gate would serve as a speed boost for his allies to use.
So it was hard to get away !
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Jayce is a very complex character that has a ton of tools that you need to understand how to use. Boots potsx3 are the best starter for any lane or a dorans blade if you are playing lower rank. When the game starts I grab Q and switch to cannon. Q with cannon doesn't do very much damage, but it does harass at level 1 and also provides sight to the area that you cast it in. This can be used to invade the enemy blue, switch to hammer and Q over the trees to engage. At level 2 I grab his E and from that point I never use Q without first casting a gate. Being able to harass at such a long distance is truly amazing, and if you are going AD carry and can push the enemy to their tower, you are able to safely land hits to them if they hug it.

I currently max Q while balancing W/E as they both provide equal usage. E is more of a utility tool to me, with gate helping me land hits, catch up or run way, and thundering strike to bat away people chasing me. W on cannon provides 3 shots with dmg % increase which is amazing late game. I could be wrong but using W in cannon then switching to hammer seems to still let you use the effect.

In a team fight I gate and blast until it starts, at this point if my gate is still up I hit it and press W. I switch to hammer, Hit W again and land a few hits before Qing someone who is low and trying to escape. I usually save E to knock away tanks from the fight , knock enemies to teammates, or knocking others away as I escape.


So far I play kinda off tankish style and I get
BoSx3pots > Sheen > Merc Treads > Wits End >Tri > ???? > ????

I have tried going full AD carry but I was far to squishy and didn't have a team capable of protecting me.

Next time I play, I am going to go for more of a bruiser tanky build to see how it works.
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That bruiser build is working quite well for me, after Tri I'm going for atmogs to see what happens
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I'm not lvl 30 yet so I can't really say much on Runes/Masteries, though I am currently sticking with ones I use on any AD damage dealer (ArmPen red, Arm yellows, MRes/lvl blues, 21/x/x)

I've been owning with him, but of course that very well could be because people are still getting used to seeing him on the field and not knowing what he does and how.

I've played him bot lane support, bot lane carry, top lane bruiser or carry, haven't had a chance to play him in mid yet.

For items I've been going Boots3pot start, Double Dorans Blade more often than not (Single and a Defense item if I'm doing REALLY badly which hasn't been that often). Eventually go for a Merc Treads or other apt boots, and eventually Black Cleaver (Cannon W + Cleaver = Fun), TriForce (or Frozen Mallet) as my core.

I haven't really settled on a final build for the rest of my items but that is often a good way to go, the rest of my play is how I play Jayce.

I rock out with Cannon for a good chunk of the game, W and Cleaver, E/Q combo for poke and scouting (In Bot and Top lanes you can put your Gate in one brush and shoot your blast into the next for dmg if they're there and for mini scouting, but watch your mana), using the Hammer for the leap, the mana regen and the knockback utility of it all.

You can also combo your Cannon W into your Hammer AutoAttacks for (I think) more damage, but it should still proc your Mana regen and Cleaver.

And yeah, CannonQ into HammerQ in the jungle to hop over small walls (Namely Blue Buffs really, haven't test it too much, too many people testing Jayce out before I can pick him :[ )
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The thing is, Jayce is hard to play (like vxvbenny said) because he has two sets of abilities at the same time those of a ranged AD and of a melee AP, which can (and must, in my opinion) also be used in combination. My favorite being : opening with a Gate/Shock blast, morphing, hitting To the skies, lightning field, get behind and hit Thundering blow, morphing again and using Hyper charge to get a few more hits before running to get another assault ready or chase down.

In this, shock blast is purely an AD hit, to the skies is the same, lightning field is AP and thundering blow has AD fixed damages but AP bonus damages in fonction of your target's max health. For this combo i get (in the order) Trinity force, bloodthirst and hextech gunblade. This setup is especially nice against squishy carrys (ashe, teemo, ...) but also works quite well against most tanks until pretty late game since if they're build armor you'll hit them hard with hammer W-E and if they're build magic resist it's with Q & canon.

In early lane game, i personnaly love to play with another ranged because it let's you time to auto-attack minions with your hammer, taking advantage of lightning field's passive and erasing any danger of being oom (which is also why i max W in second).
As for being squishy, well i can't really give you any advice except : play like you would with Ashe, keeping in mind that you WILL be easy to kill until your fourth/fifth item if you plan on building for damages.

Well i'm not good enough to say that it's the only or best solution, but i can at least assure you that it works quite well ^^.
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I got some tips for you. When playing Jayce, you have to learn to transition between his modes. You should put down an ACCELERATION GATE, shoot a SHOCK BLAST, use your CANNON MODE W, and then switch to HAMMER MODE.. Now in HAMMER MODE, you use TO THE SKIES to get close to them, run in front with a boost from ACCELERATION GATE, and knock them back with THUNDERING BLOW. Use your HAMMER MODE W to deal decent damage in an AoE. Note, you have extreme AS after switching modes due to CANNON MODE W. You have to learn to master this sequence because it deals extreme damage in a short time.
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Please take a look at my build, it's insane .look for "the baker of yesterday" on google, you will find it. Please it's my first guide and im doing really good at jayce. give it a try ;)
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Oddly, in playstyle, I compare him a lot to Nidalee.
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