Views: 2306 Moon's Aram Tier List - 10/7
|
Report
Tier 1: 
Master Yi, Diana, Ryze, Nidalee, Blitzcrank, Cassiopeia, Jayce, Lux, Karma, Janna, Kog'Maw, Cho'Gath, Varus, Ziggs, Zyra
Tier 2: Xerath, Galio, Alistar, Malphite, Irelia, Katarina, Teemo, Vladimir, Morgana, Nautilus, Heimerdinger, Ezreal, Soraka, Kayle, Gragas, Singed, Ahri, Zilean, Caitlyn, Rumble,
Tier 3: Oriana, Corki, Anivia, Nunu & Willump, Urgot, LeBlanc, Amumu, Sona, Draven, Viktor, Twisted Fate, Veigar, Graves, Poppy, Evenlynn, Gangplank, Akali, Brand, Kennen, Darius, Yorick, Karthus, Fiddlesticks, Miss Fortune, Shen, Sivir
Tier 4: Annie, Vayne, Jax, Nocturne, Renekton, Hecarim, Fizz, Sion Riven, Ashe, Kassadin, Malzahar, Talon, Shaco, Leona, Maokai, Dr. Mundo, Wukong, Taric, Tryndamere, Volibear, Olaf
Tier 5: Fiora, Lee Sin, Lulu, Swain, Trundle, Twitch, Fizz, Jarvan IV, Mordekaiser, Xin Zhao, Tristana, Rammus, Pantheon, Skarner, Shyvana, Nasus, Garen, Warwick
Eve Tier: Sejuani, Udyr
Have Yet To Place: Kha'Zix, Syndra, Rengar
Post questions or comments below thanks!
Master Yi, Diana, Ryze, Nidalee, Blitzcrank, Cassiopeia, Jayce, Lux, Karma, Janna, Kog'Maw, Cho'Gath, Varus, Ziggs, ZyraTier 2:
Xerath, Galio, Alistar, Malphite, Irelia, Katarina, Teemo, Vladimir, Morgana, Nautilus, Heimerdinger, Ezreal, Soraka, Kayle, Gragas, Singed, Ahri, Zilean, Caitlyn, Rumble,Tier 3: Oriana,
Corki, Anivia, Nunu & Willump, Urgot, LeBlanc, Amumu, Sona, Draven, Viktor, Twisted Fate, Veigar, Graves, Poppy, Evenlynn, Gangplank, Akali, Brand, Kennen, Darius, Yorick, Karthus, Fiddlesticks, Miss Fortune, Shen, SivirTier 4:
Annie, Vayne, Jax, Nocturne, Renekton, Hecarim, Fizz, Sion Riven, Ashe, Kassadin, Malzahar, Talon, Shaco, Leona, Maokai, Dr. Mundo, Wukong, Taric, Tryndamere, Volibear, OlafTier 5:
Fiora, Lee Sin, Lulu, Swain, Trundle, Twitch, Fizz, Jarvan IV, Mordekaiser, Xin Zhao, Tristana, Rammus, Pantheon, Skarner, Shyvana, Nasus, Garen, WarwickEve Tier:
Sejuani, UdyrHave Yet To Place:
Kha'Zix, Syndra, RengarPost questions or comments below thanks!
it's going to take me a while to respond to nighthawks post
my knowledge is lacking? really? trist in tier 2. She's absolutely awful for ARAM. She literally does nothing for the first 20 minutes of the game if you go AD, and if you go AP you have to go all in. Swain needs to be ahead to deal damage, if he isn't he doesn't really do much. He's never really a full tank and never a damage threat unless ahead. Morde just sits there and takes damage for the first half of the game. Pantheon can be okay, but he's a melee champion and subject to alot of harass. He falls off pretty hard anyway so he's not that great. Don't know why you wouldn't consider Ryze T1, he has some of the best sustained damage in the game, he gets super tanky and he has built in spell vamp/aoe on like a 20 second cooldown. Cho is a beefy mage he's like swain but better at the mage and tank part. He has two forms of cc and a true damage nuke ult that's got a fairly low cooldown. Diana is really strong right now, tanky assassin. She's like playing akali but without any risk. Rumble might be too high, but his ult is ******ed for team fights, kayle is a monster late game, and her early game isn't bad.
Ori might be t2. corki is overrated, he's mediocre I have him in tier 3 I think, he does alright. LeBlanc is fine in tier 3, TF is overrated, his ult isn't as useful, his E is worthless as AP and his poke is okay. veigar is kind of risky can be really good but will never reach full potential because of dependence on Q farm, I think I have him in t3 which is pretty generous for him. Graves is like corki, he's okay that's why he is t3. t3 for eve is pretty generous, considering her stealth is so easily detected on the narrow map, she can be really good, but it's hard to not get detected, also she's pretty bad pre-6 and pre-fed. Brand might need to be higher, but his damage seems kind of lacking at times. Karthus might be t2 worthy but he seems overrated in ARAM, ult has a fairly long cooldown, picking people off is more likely then full engages so his passive never seems to go to good use. Fid might be underrated, maybe t2 worthy, but his ult isn't that great with limited brush and opportunities to use it, drain can be a major hinderance considering he stands in one place for the duration, however fear might be enough to bump him up to t2. MF is pretty good, but i'm not entirely convinced. I don't think her damage is that great for team fight situations unless she has ult, if she doesn't have ult she seems weak. Shen's ult isn't as good on this map, he doesn't really do much other than provide an AoE taunt, besides who wants to channel that ult when you can just channel, cancel, then run to the person in a shorter duration. Sivir is pretty hit or miss, I honestly think she might be t4 worthy, her damage is pretty subpar and she can get kiled fairly easily, her ult isn't always incredibly impactful either especially if your team is full of AP.
high t4 is pretty generous for vayne, she's really weak and susceptible to burst, renekton is slightly better than your traditional melee champ because of his kit mainly, but anything higher than t4 would be absurd. His stun is okay, his ult and Q are great for being a tanky initiator, but hats about it. Kassadin, as an assassin, I have trouble moving him up past t4. He needs to get fairly close to deal damage, he needs armor to survive, he needs tankiness, and he has mana issues. None of that is incredibly appealing especially considering tear can be hard to farm up and catalyst/RoA seems kind of bad. Leona is an all in champ, if she goes all in and her team cant back her up, GG. As tanky cc champ who has no escape i can't possibly have her that much far ahead of maokai who pretty much does the same thing. Voli might be low, but his passive is fairly weak here, his flip is about all he has. He doesn't have enough damage and his kit wants him to build health which gets eaten alive in ARAM. Vayne is never going to be high t1, end of discussion, she's so easy to kill it's laughable that she would even cross t2.
so ya, I don't know why you're saying I have lacking knowledge after what I just read from you
dayum wall of text op, time to respond tho
Trist starts getting damage as soon as she completes her items, last hitting is ridiculously easy because of her e passive, her survivability is amazing, she can easily jump away from any harass, ult away major threats and can still carry a game easy peasy after she gets her items. If you go AP she has some of the highest burst in the game, AP imo isn't as good as AP though since you can't use your skills for what they were meant for imo.
Swain doesn't need to be ahead to deal damage, not sure where you got that. He's a super tanky champion who punishes mistakes made by the enemy team, and lategame he just flies around tanking your whole team while your adc just kills them all. He can also peel very easily if you use his skills correctly. Yes he's like Cho, and while Cho has more damage, Cho has to choose whether he should peel for his adc, initiate, or do damage, whereas Swain doesn't really have to make that choice.
I agree early and mid Morde is pretty bad, but it's ridic easy to pick up kills with ult + his lategame is just so good that I think it makes up for it, having a ghost of their adc is pretty ridiculous and can win you the game completely by itself not to mention he can turn into a very very tanky damage dealer.
I think you underestimate Pantheon's damage, he falls off a bit, but in terms of damage he is still very much up there. He's probably one of the better champions at going all in. Maybe I'm just biased because every time I play with a Pantheon he wrecks.
I know Diana is strong, but I don't think she's t1 strong. Her damage isn't super super strong and honestly I just feel if you want a nuke there are better champions, and if you want a tanky mage there are better options, she does do both well though.
Ryze is a short range champion that gets instantly blown up early game, yes his lategame is good but even then, his damage falls off and he basically just turns tanky, hasn't really made a big impression on me the games that i've played against him. His mobility and range really hurt him.
I don't think Kayle is that great, but I haven't played against her a whole lot so I probably need to play more games before I form a complete opinion.
Ori is def t1, her damage is insane, her utility is insane, she buffs her entire team, has great synergy with other champions like Leona, Malph, etc and her range is insanely good.
Corki is pretty good I think, he's good at all stages of the game although lategame I think there are better choices, he can do really well early and mid game, I kind of feel like he isn't the greatest, but isn't the worst.
LB is fairly safe, has good burst at all stages of the game and can instantly murder someone without to much harm, I would probably say Kass does what she does better but she's still pretty good, maybe higher up in t3 idk.
TF stun is gamechanging, he has great poke with Q and is good at all stages of the game, granted his ult and E aren't the greatest, but then lich is there for a reason.
I think Veigar stun is gamechanging enough on such a narrow map, but idk.
Eve isn't really about her stealth, she still has excellent damage and can just run around kiting everyone while still doing damage, her ult is also amazing, especially for teamfights, ap eve is a pretty safe pick that has great kill potential, she's also probably one of the best skirmishers there is.
MF has great damage, it's hard to get to an MF at the back of a teamfight whereas she has enough range and damage to just be able to shred people, her ult is great for teamfights and her steroid is also really good.
Shen has pretty good damage, while also having amazing peel, his ult isn't super great but it's not terrible, and honestly his peel is just so good that I think it justifies him in pretty well any teamcomp, they just shouldn't be able to kill your adc if you have a shen on the team.
I think you're right about Sivir, having played her some more.
Biggest thing I disagree with here is Vayne, Vayne is bar none the best adc on this map, there are tons of walls on this map for her to use, she gets her items way faster and hits her max potential sooner than on SR and ult + tumble is ridic good for repositioning, a good vayne should almost never get hit with any CC thanks to that + her damage is out of this world, there is very little you can do about a good vayne especially since her mobility is so good on this map. not sure how you think she's easy to kill when even if you jump on her she just uses e and and tumble while you get murdered by their frontline. Burst is ridic easy to see coming and easy to handle when you're playing vayne.
imo you're building kass wrong, I never build RoA or tear on him on PG, just go for dfg + deathcap, if you have mana problems build chalice > athene's, his E is ridiculously good since you can legit just spam it all day and it takes half hp away from most non beefy champs, ult in > dfg > e > q is insta kill and you can just ult away from any damage, he also deals with nearly every ap champion on this map, and there's a lot of them.
Leona is good as a cc bot who soaks up damage, she has strong teamfights and strong peel, maokai is good but i kind of like leona better since she has better cc on a lower cooldown and is generally tankier without mao ult, she also has better peel then him I mainly play premades vs premades in PG though, so maybe that's what i'm seeing.
and idk, I just know most people don't play PG a whole lot, my apologies for thinking you were one of them
Diana, Ryze, Cho = Not T1 (recommend t2, t4, t2/t3)
Kayle and Rumble = Not T2 (recommend t3)
Orianna, Corki, Leblanc, Draven, TF, Veigar, Graves, Eve, Brand, Karthus, Fid, MF, Shen, Sivir should all be higher. All of them are around T1 except for TF, Draven, and Shen.
Vayne, Ren, Ashe, Kass, Leona and Voli should all be at least T2, Vayne and Kass are high t1...
Morde, Swain, Trist, and Pantheon are all at least T2, possibly even T1.
Khazix and Rengar are both good, still undecided about Syndra.
Honestly some of your choices make me think your knowledge is a bit lacking, not sure how much you've played on PG (assuming this is PG and not SR) but some of these champions are a lot better then what you make them out to be. I probably even missed some lol.
my knowledge is lacking? really? trist in tier 2. She's absolutely awful for ARAM. She literally does nothing for the first 20 minutes of the game if you go AD, and if you go AP you have to go all in. Swain needs to be ahead to deal damage, if he isn't he doesn't really do much. He's never really a full tank and never a damage threat unless ahead. Morde just sits there and takes damage for the first half of the game. Pantheon can be okay, but he's a melee champion and subject to alot of harass. He falls off pretty hard anyway so he's not that great. Don't know why you wouldn't consider Ryze T1, he has some of the best sustained damage in the game, he gets super tanky and he has built in spell vamp/aoe on like a 20 second cooldown. Cho is a beefy mage he's like swain but better at the mage and tank part. He has two forms of cc and a true damage nuke ult that's got a fairly low cooldown. Diana is really strong right now, tanky assassin. She's like playing akali but without any risk. Rumble might be too high, but his ult is ******ed for team fights, kayle is a monster late game, and her early game isn't bad.
Ori might be t2. corki is overrated, he's mediocre I have him in tier 3 I think, he does alright. LeBlanc is fine in tier 3, TF is overrated, his ult isn't as useful, his E is worthless as AP and his poke is okay. veigar is kind of risky can be really good but will never reach full potential because of dependence on Q farm, I think I have him in t3 which is pretty generous for him. Graves is like corki, he's okay that's why he is t3. t3 for eve is pretty generous, considering her stealth is so easily detected on the narrow map, she can be really good, but it's hard to not get detected, also she's pretty bad pre-6 and pre-fed. Brand might need to be higher, but his damage seems kind of lacking at times. Karthus might be t2 worthy but he seems overrated in ARAM, ult has a fairly long cooldown, picking people off is more likely then full engages so his passive never seems to go to good use. Fid might be underrated, maybe t2 worthy, but his ult isn't that great with limited brush and opportunities to use it, drain can be a major hinderance considering he stands in one place for the duration, however fear might be enough to bump him up to t2. MF is pretty good, but i'm not entirely convinced. I don't think her damage is that great for team fight situations unless she has ult, if she doesn't have ult she seems weak. Shen's ult isn't as good on this map, he doesn't really do much other than provide an AoE taunt, besides who wants to channel that ult when you can just channel, cancel, then run to the person in a shorter duration. Sivir is pretty hit or miss, I honestly think she might be t4 worthy, her damage is pretty subpar and she can get kiled fairly easily, her ult isn't always incredibly impactful either especially if your team is full of AP.
high t4 is pretty generous for vayne, she's really weak and susceptible to burst, renekton is slightly better than your traditional melee champ because of his kit mainly, but anything higher than t4 would be absurd. His stun is okay, his ult and Q are great for being a tanky initiator, but hats about it. Kassadin, as an assassin, I have trouble moving him up past t4. He needs to get fairly close to deal damage, he needs armor to survive, he needs tankiness, and he has mana issues. None of that is incredibly appealing especially considering tear can be hard to farm up and catalyst/RoA seems kind of bad. Leona is an all in champ, if she goes all in and her team cant back her up, GG. As tanky cc champ who has no escape i can't possibly have her that much far ahead of maokai who pretty much does the same thing. Voli might be low, but his passive is fairly weak here, his flip is about all he has. He doesn't have enough damage and his kit wants him to build health which gets eaten alive in ARAM. Vayne is never going to be high t1, end of discussion, she's so easy to kill it's laughable that she would even cross t2.
so ya, I don't know why you're saying I have lacking knowledge after what I just read from you
Kayle and Rumble = Not T2 (recommend t3)
Orianna, Corki, Leblanc, Draven, TF, Veigar, Graves, Eve, Brand, Karthus, Fid, MF, Shen, Sivir should all be higher. All of them are around T1 except for TF, Draven, and Shen.
Vayne, Ren, Ashe, Kass, Leona and Voli should all be at least T2, Vayne and Kass are high t1...
Morde, Swain, Trist, and Pantheon are all at least T2, possibly even T1.
Khazix and Rengar are both good, still undecided about Syndra.
Honestly some of your choices make me think your knowledge is a bit lacking, not sure how much you've played on PG (assuming this is PG and not SR) but some of these champions are a lot better then what you make them out to be. I probably even missed some lol.
Blitz should be #1 overall... and isnt karma a bit high
Karma should honestly be T1 by herself.
Also I'd put