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A question on carrying a team.

Creator: Lord Kesharq September 10, 2013 8:04am
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DillButt64 wrote:

try dying less


Before i started trying to help the other lanes i was 4-1. Dying less is a tad hard when the other team starts going round in groups and they focus u when ever ur in there field of vision on the map
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EDIT> Holy **** you're 80/147, you definitely need to improve your basic mechanics and game knowledge. Farm better, die less, learn to lead your team if they are underperforming.


Problem with my score? sorry i can be oh so perfect like you and ur gold/plat mmr and win lose ratio. Why should u even care about me win lose record anyway? my account my game, i lose more than i win so what?.

oh and FARM BETTER? have u SEEN my farm in that game compared to the rest of my team? please i think i know how to farm.
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you won't carry every game. nobody ever literally means that. looking at your score, you didn't exactly roll on the enemies either (positive score and decent CS though). anyways, talon isn't my cup of tea for carrying games. if you want to carry on an assassin, I suggest you learn to play fizz in normals.
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It's Bronze, lol.

Split push a side lane, kill people 1v1. Take inhib, go to other side lane and repeat. Or push to their Nexus if they don't send anyone.

Ward their buffs, buy an Oracles, kill them when they try to get it.

Like seriously it is not hard to win games if you're better.
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Problem with my score? sorry i can be oh so perfect like you and ur gold/plat mmr and win lose ratio. Why should u even care about me win lose record anyway? my account my game, i lose more than i win so what?.

oh and FARM BETTER? have u SEEN my farm in that game compared to the rest of my team? please i think i know how to farm.


this is why youre never going to get better

please reread what you just said

and again, try dying less, i have games were i go 4/1/11 and lose, i played good because i didnt die, it doesnt matter what your teammates do youre the reason you died and its your fault for dying when on a killing spree, if youre 4/1 and then you die to someone they get bounty gold on you its your responsibility as the one thats carrying not to die

so try dying less
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DillButt64 wrote:



this is why youre never going to get better

please reread what you just said

and again, try dying less, i have games were i go 4/1/11 and lose, i played good because i didnt die, it doesnt matter what your teammates do youre the reason you died and its your fault for dying when on a killing spree, if youre 4/1 and then you die to someone they get bounty gold on you its your responsibility as the one thats carrying not to die

so try dying less


- i really couldn't care about getting better at this game atm. This game is full of 3 things atm, elitist high elo players, toxic trolls who ruin games and the maybe 1 or 2 nice honorable players who just play for fun and suffer the rest, am NOT playing ranked to get better at LoL.

let me ask u this tho Dillbutt64 how would i prevent dying? only way i could have done that is by staying way clear of team fights and tower hugging like mad while leaving the other lanes to there fate...maybe i should try that from now on just to avoid dying more than 2 times per a game.


Also is it possible to stop people from posting on a thread? am regretting post this now
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if you arnt playing ranked to get better then why do you play ranked? for fun? just play norms in that case with your friends

how to prevent dying? better positioning, dont go to "save" someone when they get caught out, let them die, yes it makes you look like an ******* but one teammate dying is better than two teammates dying, dont chase for kills, you dying and them getting 4 assists isnt worth you getting one kill, dont die trying to defend a turret if its going to go down let it dont stand next to it to die with it

there are lots of ways to prevent dying

there is no reason to complain about how bad your teams are doing if you dont want to improve yourself
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The whole point of ranked is to provide a competitive environment. If you don't care about getting better, play normals.


oh and FARM BETTER? have u SEEN my farm in that game compared to the rest of my team? please i think i know how to farm.

You have 216 farm in a 33 minute game, with a champion who can literally clear an entire wave in half a second. That's not impressive by any means.
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Satella wrote:

The whole point of ranked is to provide a competitive environment. If you don't care about getting better, play normals.


You have 216 farm in a 33 minute game, with a champion who can literally clear an entire wave in half a second. That's not impressive by any means.


Satella is right, Talon has a very easy time farming. 216 cs at 33 minutes is very low, not matter who you are playing. If you are a good farmer, you should be at around 300 at that mark in the game. Also, if you want to carry in low elo, try split pushing. As Talon you should be good at 1v1ing, and you can push towers very quickly due to being AD, and having an auto attack reset.
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Okay, say 300 is stretching it a bit, even so you should have about 250-280 if you factor in roaming and everything. If not, the CS should be made up by the amount of kills/assists or other objectives you get for your team.

I was playing as Ziggs earlier and I got 212 CS in 37 minutes. The difference is that although I only got 212 CS, I was also the main reason enemy mid lost two towers and botlane lost a secondary tower. I was the reason their mid was denied blue buff. The 8 kills I got by 20 minutes into the game made up for my poor CS-ing.

Sure, not every game is as ideal as going 20/2/11, but that's honestly where the difference lies between a better player and a poorer player.

Sure, missing one CS per wave might be acceptable, but if you look at it in terms of the enemy getting 1 more CS than you every wave, it does eventually stack up to an advantage. On blue side whenever I play ADC, I still do double golems if the opportunity presents itself in the laning.

And seriously, stop flaming on your teammates. Okay, they play bad, sure. BUT YOU'RE NOT MUCH BETTER THAN THEM. 'Well, at least I know how to ward', yeah stfu. They're not warding? Fine, take responsibility as a teammate and pick up their slack. Ward for them. Encourage teammates to ward for them. Caitlyn's building a ****ty Runaan's Hurricane? NP, ignore it and carry.

The moment you lose your cool is the moment you're likely to lose every other game thereafter. If chat pisses you off, then mute.

Try playing in one of the MOBAFire inhouses. There's one this Friday. Get specific feedback using examples in-game to improve your gameplay.
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