Rammus powershift or buff/nerf?

[quote=SlashStarEX]How do you feel about the changes to [[rammus]]? I honestly think he really was too strong of a champion, so much cc, aoe damage, and tankiness rolled into one singular champion. Therefore, Riot nerfed him slightly from the tanky cc monster he is but did update his mana costs to those of newer champions. RIP support [[rammus]].[/quote]

[quote=drakon136]It's a fairly obvious nerf, really.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]It's a nerf but probably not a crippling one. I don't think his current position as a jungler will change much.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Slight nerf, he was a bit overboard. Still very strong.[/quote]

[quote=Barph]Its a nerf but Rammus is still Rammus, 1st choice jungler for me. 2.25seconds is still forever.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Rammus wasn't nerfed because he was strong, he was nerfed because 3 second hard CC's aren't fun for anyone. He was already a tier 3 jungler before this.[/quote]

[quote=Barph][quote=Vapora Dark] Rammus wasn't nerfed because he was strong, he was nerfed because 3 second hard CC's aren't fun for anyone. He was already a tier 3 jungler before this. [/quote] Tier 3 jungler with the highest winrate in ranked. People just didn't seem to respect his power.[/quote]

[quote=Ahruu][quote=Barph] [quote=Vapora Dark] Rammus wasn't nerfed because he was strong, he was nerfed because 3 second hard CC's aren't fun for anyone. He was already a tier 3 jungler before this. [/quote] Tier 3 jungler with the highest winrate in ranked. People just didn't seem to respect his power. [/quote] This. Paired up with someone who can follow up well on his ganks he just seems unstoppable[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Ahruu] [quote=Barph] [quote=Vapora Dark] Rammus wasn't nerfed because he was strong, he was nerfed because 3 second hard CC's aren't fun for anyone. He was already a tier 3 jungler before this. [/quote] Tier 3 jungler with the highest winrate in ranked. People just didn't seem to respect his power. [/quote] This. Paired up with someone who can follow up well on his ganks he just seems unstoppable [/quote] And playing against any tier 1 jungler who knows how to counterjungle, he'll end up 3 levels behind. Edit: I guess that means he was nerfed because he was too strong at low Elo.[/quote]

[quote=Quite Nomible]What is it that makes rammus weak early? I always considered rammus quite strong in his earlygame, because of his ridiculous bonus armor/magic resist he gets from his W, and I never really had any problems with counterjunglers just because of that (except from some sneaky champions like [[shaco]] that steals your farm sneakily). Only problem I have with him is his early-game farming, but that's it, really.[/quote]