Mooninites wrote:
Graves doesn't kill tanks very well and with mundo and shyvanna being absolutely ******ed right now, I don't see him getting played any time soon, but who knows
EDIT: Also, Ashe is still pretty bad. Garbage laning phase and item-dependent. A lot of the AD carries picked now have pretty strong laning phases and/or incredible scaling: i.e. - lucian, caitlyn, jinx
100% wrong i win vs any adc.
which is why youre in gold and not one of the top adc players in the world right?
anyways ashe is, like everyone else is saying, still underclassed by other adcs, yes she can kite and has a global stun but that doesnt mean shes the best adc
her only steroid is her passive and thats only for one AA and needs to be charged up, whereas lucian has his passive which can be used 3 times during his burst(possibly more idk his cooldowns), jinx has her obvious Q steroids, draven has spinning axes, caitlyn has headshot(which can also a mini crit and stacks much faster than ashes passive)
anyways ashe is, like everyone else is saying, still underclassed by other adcs, yes she can kite and has a global stun but that doesnt mean shes the best adc
her only steroid is her passive and thats only for one AA and needs to be charged up, whereas lucian has his passive which can be used 3 times during his burst(possibly more idk his cooldowns), jinx has her obvious Q steroids, draven has spinning axes, caitlyn has headshot(which can also a mini crit and stacks much faster than ashes passive)
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Graves has fallen out of favor. Ashe is strong, but would take a ridiculous amount of consideration in ban and pick to let her capitalize it.
P.S: Why bother with the term "best" when everything is relative, you were looking to stir up things from the get go or something? One is superior to another only when placed within a context, i.e: lead is heavier than gold, gold is lighter than lead... If there is such a champ that has absolute advantage, it'd only merit constant ban and a nerf to the face.
P.S: Why bother with the term "best" when everything is relative, you were looking to stir up things from the get go or something? One is superior to another only when placed within a context, i.e: lead is heavier than gold, gold is lighter than lead... If there is such a champ that has absolute advantage, it'd only merit constant ban and a nerf to the face.
The entire purpose of playing Ashe is for the ultimate. The rest of her kit is pretty mediocre compared to other picks, other than a pretty respectable autoattack range. There's not much reason to pick her right now with the existence of Mikael's Blessing and the prominence of initiator support like Annie and Leona. Basically why play Ashe + Zyra when you could play Caitlyn + Annie?
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Ashe is good for:
Lv1 Cheese
Making up for lacking CC
AoE stun initiate/escapes
So she's the choice I'd take if your team has two heavy damage dealers already and not a lot of CC coming off anyone other than the support.
Lv1 Cheese
Making up for lacking CC
AoE stun initiate/escapes
So she's the choice I'd take if your team has two heavy damage dealers already and not a lot of CC coming off anyone other than the support.
Her level 6 is decent if neither side backed for extra items. Pair her with Leona and you can always get 1 kill at level 6, if not a double.
Her overall utility is pretty decent. Her laning is just a bit difficult and she pretty much requires at least 2 full items to start doing work.
Her overall utility is pretty decent. Her laning is just a bit difficult and she pretty much requires at least 2 full items to start doing work.
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I wonder when they will pick up the season 2 Graves+ Taric combo again.. Fun fun fun and awesome kill potential.
Graves doesn't kill tanks very well and with mundo and shyvanna being absolutely ******ed right now, I don't see him getting played any time soon, but who knows
EDIT: Also, Ashe is still pretty bad. Garbage laning phase and item-dependent. A lot of the AD carries picked now have pretty strong laning phases and/or incredible scaling: i.e. - lucian, caitlyn, jinx