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A Short Guide to Counter-Items

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by Keemstar » February 26, 2012 8:29am | Report

Not a good guide. Explain what DoT means and after a picture place a name... The title says "Dummies" so you should respect them and give the name of the item/champion.


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by salmjak » February 26, 2012 8:35am | Report

Thank you for your input :) I reckoned that the picture (which if you hold your mouse over will show name and stats) would be enough and adding names would just be confusing.

Yeah, I should explain the "abbreviations", I will add that!
Aswell as about the title, it might sound a bit offensive but it's just a pun on the "for dummies" franchise but while it is for rookies I should have such things in consideration.


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by TheAlibert007 » February 26, 2012 10:29am | Report

Madreds bloodrazer is no counter item for offtanks

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by IceCreamy » February 26, 2012 10:55am | Report

Don't forget about Moonflair Spellblade as Tenacity item! :)

Anyhow this guide is a good start, but it is still lacking. Keep up the good work and it will be great, I think ^^ Good luck!




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by salmjak » February 26, 2012 11:24am | Report


Madreds bloodrazer is no counter item for offtanks


Well, This is both true and false. It does make you deal more damage against off-tanks but it might not be the BEST item to use for the champion in question.
Imagine you fighting against an enemy with 3k HP, 4% of 3k = 120, that is 120 bonus damage, which I consider to be a lot.
Please explain how it is not good against off-tanks? :/

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by albableat » February 26, 2012 12:13pm | Report

O_O

The Black Cleaver to counter high armor?

I am missing out something? *cough* Last Whisper *cough*


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by salmjak » February 26, 2012 12:15pm | Report

albableat wrote:

O_O

The Black Cleaver to counter high armor?

I am missing out something? *cough* Last Whisper *cough*


OMG! How stupid of me >-< How could I forget about that item.. -.-'' Going to add it right away and put Black Cleaver as an alternative to it instead. Thank you!


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by TheAlibert007 » February 27, 2012 5:04am | Report

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Well, This is both true and false. It does make you deal more damage against off-tanks but it might not be the BEST item to use for the champion in question.
Imagine you fighting against an enemy with 3k HP, 4% of 3k = 120, that is 120 bonus damage, which I consider to be a lot.
Please explain how it is not good against off-tanks? :/


120 is alot BUT bloodrazor only works on PURE on hit champions.
IF you really want to kill a offtank lategame you need crit + armor pen (Infinity Edge, Shadow Dancer, Lastwhisper= HIGH dps on whoever youre attacking).
A offtank with 3k hp has about 100-150 mr which means more than 50%reduction AND the dmg cant even crit (equal low dps for an ad carry).
To make it even worse, an ad carry wont buy magicpen just to benefit from the onhit dmg I guess.

EDIT: You put shadow dancer as an alternative.

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by salmjak » February 27, 2012 5:24am | Report




120 is alot BUT bloodrazor only works on PURE on hit champions.
IF you really want to kill a offtank lategame you need crit + armor pen (Infinity Edge, Shadow Dancer, Lastwhisper= HIGH dps on whoever youre attacking).
A offtank with 3k hp has about 100-150 mr which means more than 50%reduction AND the dmg cant even crit (equal low dps for an ad carry).
To make it even worse, an ad carry wont buy magicpen just to benefit from the onhit dmg I guess.

EDIT: You put shadow dancer as an alternative.


Yeah, I realised that if someone crits they can do up to 700 damage, and by then 120 ain't very much :/ Might just remove it completely.


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by breticles » April 13, 2012 6:31pm | Report

I was almost specifically looking for a guide like this when browsing the forums. I am glad I found this. I think you did a great job.

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