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15% armor pen is nothing - not to forget it needs to stack over a couple of hits meaning it's less effective regardless. Not worth to buy major AD items.
Omg vyne don't you get that since Kayle has that passive she doesn't need armor pen coz it's totally all the armor pen she needs?
At last one is using brain here.
"Seems" did you even tryed this build before hating? Try this out, come back after you win your game, I will wait for the apology:)
that was me trying not to be rude... That items ARE AWFUL.
Cya :)
It's not like you've discovered some kind of hidden OP build because you haven't. You can get more damage, more utility and more survive-ability by going standard Nashor's Tooth -> Runaan's Hurricane -> Rabadon's Deathcap -> Void Staff. Item's like Guinsoo's Rageblade and Hextech Gunblade are usually a waste because you don't need the attack damage because you're not having any armor pen to back it up. You get a lot more damage by going full ap once you take resistances into account.
Zephyr is decent because it gives ATTACK SPEED but overall Runaan's Hurricane is a bit better for Kayle because of the AoE on E.
Meaning this **** is gonna sink. Because it's **** :>
1. Stop with this mathematical nonsense and TRY this build. Your early game is not squishy, you didn't even try that so do not speak like you did.
2. This guide is not for "not dying Kayle with zero damage" but for "Kayle with incredible damage" so your 21/9 build doesnt belong here. The same thing goes with "Q ability". This guide is to teach players to take Kayle as DPS champion like ADC (which means AUTO-ATTACK damage) not use 1 spell and die:)
3. Every player has its own playstyle, like I did write in my guide. I prefer to push lane and go for gank, so my mana hunger is huge.
4. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/s4-ap-kayle-a-unique-kind-of-ap-carry-306813 one of most-wieved Kayle guides ... look a Gunsoo blade, don't say to me that it is a noob item, when you just don't know how to play with it. Read my guide I write in tips and tricsk how to have 8stacks all the time -.-
5. Zephyr not viable, well look another famous Kayle guide from Diamond http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/s4-stomping-solo-que-with-kayle-jungle-4-9updated-364483 see the zephyr? -.-
6. About the attack speed...well maybe your Kayle has low as at early game. Why do you think i recommend ATTACK SPEED RUNES and rush an ATTACK SPEED item? For rly? If you do not want to try the build at last READ the build. Kayle attack speed is great with this build even at early game -.- Screaming for jungler? I give up, why do I even write here, nobody read it anyway, they just see one item and go for hate.
7. Sorry, but I am getting tired of writting to guys, that only "thinks" how it should be, but did not even try it.
Well, perhaps I was rude to say what I said, but you aren't exactly the world charmest guy.
Are you angry because I wrote that your favourite champion has Power Level 1 against Kayle? Well I dont care anyway. Haters gonna hate no matter what happens.
That's one the reason why I want to be an arse to you. The 2nd one is that I really hate bad guide like this. It makes no different if you means well or that you are really great at this game, but you are doing a bad job at keeping the responsibilities that comes with guide writing. Did you even do proper guide writing preparation? I know it's a game but if you have the balls teaching ppl, at least do something right.
Runes;
- Seal of scaling health and glyph of ability power leave your early game extremely squishy. Kayle has no escape and you're screaming for jungler to come gank ya. Kayle doesn't even have that great scaling with AP for ap glyphs to be more useful than magic resist.
Masteries;
- I could argue that 21/9 is better and you should leave at least Warlord out but seems like you run a lot of unnecessary AD items. In this build I guess it's OK but overall the build itself is not the most viable one.
- Random Phasewalker
Skilling order;
- I could argue again that taking few early Q levels before E max could be useful because you simply don't have much attack speed at early point of the game
Items;
- I don't see the need for mana potion in early game. You shouldn't spam abilities that much. You start pretty standard but rageblade is a noob-trap. That's not really useful especially in lane as you often just get 1-2 AA off.
- Other point: You don't usually rush Void Staff on Kayle. It's usually one of the last items and you run more sort of AA/AD reliant meaning you need the staff even less. So the build order doesn't make sense.
- I don't feel the need of GA when you have the ultimate anyways. I don't see GA doing anything here. Go for any other defensive item. Zhonya's or something is much better.
- Hextech and Zephyr both are pretty.. not so viable.
About your arguements against others:
- You have played 2 seasons, 400 ranked games. You're Gold.
- Your platinum V team is in 3v3 with 230 games.
- SoloQ rating > 3v3 rating. 58% ratio is nothing special.
- With 9/8 KDA, you can't really say your teams have been bad
You can't really back-up your build. That's what I'm trying to say here. You have not brought fool-proof facts to the table. The users here will read comments and negative responses and that attitude won't get you upvotes. I'll leave my vote neutral but depending on future responses, I'll consider -1
P.S: The guide itself is lacking in detail and explanation. I find some of the information quite unaccurate too.
If you want people to try your alternative - even if it goes against what is being done and is mathematically inferior - you should present reasons that go beyon "my team is plat and I'm only gold coz soloq sux"
Are you angry because I wrote that your favourite champion has Power Level 1 against Kayle? Well I dont care anyway. Haters gonna hate no matter what happens. I know how good this build is and I am happy that I helped at last some guys that have tryed this out and are winning now. Still thanks for the comments.
Not at all, unlike you, I'm very self-aware; thus I know that Zed doesn't do that well against Kayle. I also know that Twisted Fate has such a mediocre laning phase that he's of no threat to Kayle on his own, yet you mark him as 10.
P.S. I noticed you keep using the "word" tryed.
P.P.S. I also noticed you play on EUNE, how wonderful.