Question on Rabadon's Deathcap and Archangel's...

[quote=JToTheL]Okay So... it is kind of confusing... what is UNIQUE Passive: Increased ability power by 30% mean? Is this mean that if you buy Deathcap it will increase my ability power from the base status or base + item status? (exampe: 100(base)+155+76.5(30% from base+item) = 331.5? or 100(base)+155(item)+30(30% from base) = 285?) And if I buy 2 or more Deathcap how does this percentage works? I just want to know what would be more beneficial to get between Deathcap and Archangel's Staff (I am not thinking about mana regent and max amount of mana) Would be nice to get 1 deathcap and all Staff or 1 staff and all deathcap? Thank you for reading[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]The effect itself means that it takes whatever ability power you're at currently and increases it by 30%. In other words, take whatever ability power you would have and multiply it by 1.3. You don't have base ability power - it starts at 0, unless you run runes or masteries. So if you buy a Deathcap, it puts you to 155 AP. That times the passive brings you up to 201.5. If you already have 400 AP from items and you buy a Deathcap, you're at 555 AP. That in addition to the passive brings you up to 721.5 AP (555*1.3) If you buy 2 Deathcaps, you only get the 30% benefit from one because it says "UNIQUE Passive". UNIQUE effects only trigger once. However, you will still get 155 AP from both Caps because the AP effect is not unique. An Archangel's Staff will not give more AP than a Rabadon's Deathcap will unless you have over 3,667 mana. So if you wanted to go for pure, massive AP stacking, get one Deathcap and stack AA staffs. However, if you just wanted items in term of pure single AP, Deathcap beats out AA Staff. Still, AP is useless without magic penetration and survivability to back it up. A pretty solid mage build is AA Staff, Rabadon's Deathcap, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Void Staff, Banshee's Veil, and Mercury's Treads.[/quote]

[quote=JToTheL][quote=Jebus McAzn] The effect itself means that it takes whatever ability power you're at currently and increases it by 30%. In other words, take whatever ability power you would have and multiply it by 1.3. You don't have base ability power - it starts at 0, unless you run runes or masteries. So if you buy a Deathcap, it puts you to 155 AP. That times the passive brings you up to 201.5. If you already have 400 AP from items and you buy a Deathcap, you're at 555 AP. That in addition to the passive brings you up to 721.5 AP (555*1.3) If you buy 2 Deathcaps, you only get the 30% benefit from one because it says "UNIQUE Passive". UNIQUE effects only trigger once. However, you will still get 155 AP from both Caps because the AP effect is not unique. An Archangel's Staff will not give more AP than a Rabadon's Deathcap will unless you have over 3,667 mana. So if you wanted to go for pure, massive AP stacking, get one Deathcap and stack AA staffs. However, if you just wanted items in term of pure single AP, Deathcap beats out AA Staff. Still, AP is useless without magic penetration and survivability to back it up. A pretty solid mage build is AA Staff, Rabadon's Deathcap, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Void Staff, Banshee's Veil, and Mercury's Treads. [/quote] VERY NICE!! Thank you for the info!![/quote]

[quote=Cynk]perfect just what i was lookin for thanks :)[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]Quick note, [[rabadon's deathcap]] is +140 AP now[/quote]

[quote=Shinjuka]Additionally I believe the +30% stacks, so if you had 200AP with a Rabadon's, you would first jump to 260AP then 278AP then 283.4AP, then 285.02 and effectively stop there (the 30% keeps on going but the number eventually goes to 0!) If the math was confusing, basically the 30% stacks on itself, so the 60 you gain from the 30% will have its own 30% applied to it also.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Shinjuka] Additionally I believe the +30% stacks, so if you had 200AP with a Rabadon's, you would first jump to 260AP then 278AP then 283.4AP, then 285.02 and effectively stop there (the 30% keeps on going but the number eventually goes to 0!) If the math was confusing, basically the 30% stacks on itself, so the 60 you gain from the 30% will have its own 30% applied to it also. [/quote] Pretty sure it doesn't work like that. The 30% increase is calculated once after all of your sources of AP are added together.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]what psiguard said.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Sorry Shin, not the case.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX][quote=Shinjuka] Additionally I believe the +30% stacks, so if you had 200AP with a Rabadon's, you would first jump to 260AP then 278AP then 283.4AP, then 285.02 and effectively stop there (the 30% keeps on going but the number eventually goes to 0!) If the math was confusing, basically the 30% stacks on itself, so the 60 you gain from the 30% will have its own 30% applied to it also. [/quote] The thing you describe is when you got the Archmage mastery. The Ap given by Deathcap will be taken account for the Archmage bonus you get. The bouns will effect the Deathcap passiv again and so on to the point where 5% of the given Ap by Rabadons are to less to make 1 Ap out of it.[/quote]