Also what roles should he be playing in high mmr i dont think adc but?
Start them on an ADC like Ashe. Good range and good utility. Have a veteran on a really protective support like Tahm Kench, Janna, or Morgana guard them and ward for them and let the new player work on CSing and gradually into trading.
My recollection of starting out was that I found it impossible to PvP with a melee champion and do well. You have to know way to much about the game to start having success. With range you can at least poke at things without getting yourself into too much trouble especially if you have someone watching out for you.
If you have more than two people playing together, you probably want to try and get jungle and/or mid that way you can roam to Bot lane quite often to make sure the yeung ADCs laning phase goes as well as possible.
Then after a while have them take a turn at support so they can learn things like warding, peeling, and item active usage.
My recollection of starting out was that I found it impossible to PvP with a melee champion and do well. You have to know way to much about the game to start having success. With range you can at least poke at things without getting yourself into too much trouble especially if you have someone watching out for you.
If you have more than two people playing together, you probably want to try and get jungle and/or mid that way you can roam to Bot lane quite often to make sure the yeung ADCs laning phase goes as well as possible.
Then after a while have them take a turn at support so they can learn things like warding, peeling, and item active usage.
MungoGeri wrote:
********. No role or playstyle is intrinsically easier or harder to learn. Any new player should just try to play as much different things as possible and find out what role he enjoys most.
Taric is my go to recommendation to anyone starting since like season 1.
Good base damage to practice last hitting (when possible), does typical support stuff while being able to heal (new players are very biased towards healing i find, so this helps out a lot) as well as an extremely basic kit to learn.
PAST THAT though, try every weekly free champion at least once, find a small niche they really really enjoy, and get them to buy/practice them while still trying out all the other champions. Start by teaching the basics, the very very basics, and work up from there.
Good base damage to practice last hitting (when possible), does typical support stuff while being able to heal (new players are very biased towards healing i find, so this helps out a lot) as well as an extremely basic kit to learn.
PAST THAT though, try every weekly free champion at least once, find a small niche they really really enjoy, and get them to buy/practice them while still trying out all the other champions. Start by teaching the basics, the very very basics, and work up from there.
Shh! I'm Charging My Laser.
I like to get them started on ADCs, precisely because it takes good micro to do well. It'll focus his attention to the things that take priority in the laning, such as CS and positioning.
After that/at the same time, putting them on support will give them a better understanding of the map without having to personally jungle (which is quite a daunting task for new players). And, by doing this, you can lane with him as their duo partner, so you can constantly communicate to him information.
Then it's just a matter of playing enough games until he gets the hang of it.
Easy AD champions would be straightforward stuff like Caitlyn or Ashe. As long as they're not playing Ezreal, you're golden.
Basically any support is fine, imo, but you can start with easier stuff like Janna or Taric.
After that/at the same time, putting them on support will give them a better understanding of the map without having to personally jungle (which is quite a daunting task for new players). And, by doing this, you can lane with him as their duo partner, so you can constantly communicate to him information.
Then it's just a matter of playing enough games until he gets the hang of it.
Easy AD champions would be straightforward stuff like Caitlyn or Ashe. As long as they're not playing Ezreal, you're golden.
Basically any support is fine, imo, but you can start with easier stuff like Janna or Taric.
Vynertje wrote:
********. No role or playstyle is intrinsically easier or harder to learn. Any new player should just try to play as much different things as possible and find out what role he enjoys most.
Wow, man. Try getting up on the other side of the bed from now on. You might end up having a better disposition.
The situation that we are talking about is a new player playing with and against higher mmr players. A brand new player playing ADC is likely to get frustrated by all the likely deaths that come from having a big target on his or her back. As a frequent support player, I know as well as you that playing support involves a lot of subtle decision making. However, it's likely to be more forgiving and less frustrating for a new player as the OP gradually coaches his or her friend on the more subtle aspects of the game. I suggested Nami since she can stand back more and can give a new player the feeling that they are helping the team even if they end up dying too much. Leona is also good, because her tankiness helps a new player survive and her basic attack pattern is to mash her keyboard.
Similarly, a caster with a decent cast range can make it easier for a new player to hide behind the more experienced players and feel like they're contributing. You just have to tell the person to stay back and lob spells into the fray. As the person becomes more experienced, he or she can learn how to better position themselves and make even better plays.
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