Jungling with Fiddlesticks

[quote=Vikilla]Hey guys, I'm new on mobafire. Anyways, I've hit lvl 18 and decided to try to jungle with fiddlesticks. I got about 4 levels behind even though I was doing a pretty good job jungling. Is this normal? Also, is it a good idea to help gank someone that's about 4 levels higher than me?[/quote]

[quote=Xiaowiriamu]Usually when i jungle with fiddle im same level as those at bottom lane, or if my ganking went well same level as mid. You should be ganking lanes that are pushed. I usually gank at level 5. But it's better to gank at 6. I wouldn't advice ganking players 4 levels higher unless you know you can get a kill or make them blue pill back or use summoner spells or help your team survive. I'm still struggling to solo baron at lv 12, done it twice in 5 games, other 3 i died or failed. :D Also i think if you're jungling with fiddle its best to get lv 30, the runes can make a big difference to a jungler.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]I'd be a lot more explicit with my help but I have no clue what your jungling actually looks like to put you 4 levels behind the lanes. There really should be no reason that's happening.[/quote]

[quote=Gster]Im not sure if fiddle can jungle as efficient as it did in the past due to the nerf it received a couple of patches ago. Being 4 levels behind bot lane is not normal for a jungler. You should at least be the same or maybe a lv behind bot lane, anything bellow that then your jungling is pretty worthless and might as well just lane.[/quote]

[quote=Melarith]I don't consider Fiddlesticks a jungler anymore. What they did was that they reduced the healing you got from Drain, meaning that you would have to cast more Drains to sustain your health - before, Fiddlesticks *COULD* get away with autoattacking the occasional creep, but no longer, and has to keep a constant flow on Drains going. That means that you're crazy bluebuff dependent, and if the enemy team makes a point out of denying you it, you're now laning Fiddle until it respawns. Same goes for when the blue runs out. Go back laning until it pops back up. Iunno what Riot was thinking, he was already struggling in the jungle as it is, now he just can't do it efficiently. My suggestion would be to bury him, but if you desperately want to play him, lane instead. There are better, and easier junglers out there - Nunu, Warwick, Nocturne, are all relatively easy to get the hang of. And two of them are very cheap.[/quote]

[quote=SinDelta]I Think I'll make some Jungle Videos for users on this forum that are new to Jungling, I guess it will kind of be like Stonewalls videos except well It will be up to the users on this forum who they want to see Jungle, what do you guys think?[/quote]

[quote=Melarith]Well, I don't really see the point, since you can just link a Stonewall video anyway :P[/quote]

[quote=SinDelta]He doesn't have every champion Jungling :p But hey i'm just trying to help out so it doesnt matter to me[/quote]

[quote=Lazukin]Fiddles can still jungle well. WEWEQR Flat AP Quints 9 or more in Offensive Tree Cloth Armor + 5 Health Pots. Blue, Wolves, Wraiths, Golems, Wolves, Wraiths, Dragon Gank after second wraiths or after dragon. You should be the same level or higher than bot lane. However, Level 20 runes are almost a must for efficient jungling.[/quote]

[quote=Vikilla]Hmm, I guess I'll take your guys' advice and wait until I get some runes. I just started jungling though. Are most junglers supposed to go Small Golems > Wraiths > Wolves > Giant Golem > Lizard?[/quote]