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I am Seeign Some Weird Stuff

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October 24, 2012 3:23am
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Kazega » October 24, 2012 3:23am | Report
In ELO hell anyway.

I am trying ot wrap my head around it but i still can't make out why it is doing so good. Or at least why it is destroying me.

The thing I am seeing is a 30-0-0 mastery set for Top laners, with weird rune sets to follow. the first was a rengar, who ran with AS Marks, 5 AS seals, and 4 AS glyphs (21.8% AS) with 4 armor seals and 5 CDR glyphs topped of with MS quints. and earlier today I was trounced by a Fiora with Arpen Marks and all else flat AD.

The Rengar just outright demolished my Jax play. I had to passive farm at my tower forever and that allowed him to roam and kill freely. I don't really get how he was able to almost two shot me as well.

The Fiora was slightly more manageable but I was still on the back foot, depsite first blood and a 2 level advantage when she just smacked me around with her sword.

So what gives? Why is this destroying me?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » October 24, 2012 3:45am | Report
If they have no armor and you're getting stomped just bait them to fight when you have minions and counter-initiate on them.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by A Chubby Baby » October 24, 2012 4:17am | Report
well said.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Kazega » October 24, 2012 4:58am | Report
The problem is they can 4-5 shot me for whatever reason. when I try to engage it barely hurts them. I am trying to do the math but I seem to be missing something.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Darcurse » October 24, 2012 5:29am | Report
Jax is squishy as **** after his rework, only while your ult is active you are slightly more sturdy, but since he's a pure autohitter with a skillset that FORCES him to stay in combat, he's way too ****ing squishy.


And he still got his early game probs, so don't even think about attacking someone like Rengar/Fiora without stacking your passive to max and having every skill ready.

And against Fiora on lvl 6: Keep your Counterstrike only for that Ulti.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Kazega » October 24, 2012 5:42am | Report
Darcurse wrote:

And against Fiora on lvl 6: Keep your Counterstrike only for that Ulti.

I should have mentioned it was Riven against Fiora. and Jax did alright against Rengar, but he kept healing and did incedible amoutns of damage despite not having any offense (his first item was Zeal with B.Greeves) and he still could 3 shot me.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » October 24, 2012 5:51am | Report
Well they're basically using ze ham

try to get a jungler to gank

ofc im assuming they wont

so

it really depends who you're playing

just know when to fight and when to not fight

definitely dont engage on them or let them engage on you openly early on for sure

just keep in mind your goal is to outscale the enemy as jax.
With their cheeze strat just get an early chain vest


You'll outscale em as long as you manage the lane well.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » October 24, 2012 7:24am | Report
Did you get armor? If rengar was nearly full AS his natural pen was kinda ****py, you should've been able to witstand his burst with a ninja tabi and some early HP instead of forcing hextech.

Fiora is the same deal; you can't ignore armor penetration, you build armor for it. You could stun her steroids to shorten it's duration, perhaps after armor and some lifesteal you could do her with greater ease.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » October 24, 2012 7:42am | Report
They have no minion damage reduction at all?

Freeze lane and fight near your own minions. :D
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Kazega » October 25, 2012 2:35am | Report
So maybe the issue is that i am not recognizing this fast enough
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