Jungle exp

[quote=Lugignaf]Jungle was fixed because EXP was too low. They never bumped it up enough to get you to level 4 without doing a camp more than once though. That better Luther?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Yes, I understand that, but that's not what they said on page one. =P[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Lugignaf] Jungle was fixed because EXP was too low. They never bumped it up enough to get you to level 4 without doing a camp more than once though. That better Luther? [/quote] Unless you have [[awarness]] (before the hotfix you couldn't 4 with awarness either) I just never realized that because both my mastery pages for jungle (tanky and AD) have awarness[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Ive been hating the jungle recently....its hit or miss. If the lanes dont need any help then its fine or if i can get some good ganks in im fine....but if my teammates are pushing too hard and needing ganks it becomes either a "fuck you" moment im trying to keep up in kevels....or "ok ill try to help" and i completely fall behind everyone...or thats how its been since ive been playing regularly again... [/quote] I suppose I could help, but not in this thread, mwahahahahah [/quote] where did i ask for help? I just mentioned how the jungle feels slow, unrewarding, and less appealing than it used to...thats not just the reduced exp but the gold too. I didnt see "help me" anywhere in there :-P[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Oh, I see. [[Awareness]] is far too deep into crappy Utility for me to think about getting it now. :P[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Yeah...i think riot was attempting to seperate the ap and ad champs a bit more..in terms of usefulness of each tree...for my ad carries i go into defense now because nothing really stands out for me in utility anymore...which makes exp gain a bitch if youre forced from lane a lot[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] [quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Ive been hating the jungle recently....its hit or miss. If the lanes dont need any help then its fine or if i can get some good ganks in im fine....but if my teammates are pushing too hard and needing ganks it becomes either a "fuck you" moment im trying to keep up in kevels....or "ok ill try to help" and i completely fall behind everyone...or thats how its been since ive been playing regularly again... [/quote] I suppose I could help, but not in this thread, mwahahahahah [/quote] where did i ask for help? I just mentioned how the jungle feels slow, unrewarding, and less appealing than it used to...thats not just the reduced exp but the gold too. I didnt see "help me" anywhere in there :-P [/quote] Strange, 'cause it sounds to me like you could use the help of someone who doesn't fall behind in levels Anyway for Jungle masteries with awarness you can go 0/9/21 for tanky champs and 14/0/16 for damage champs[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] [quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Ive been hating the jungle recently....its hit or miss. If the lanes dont need any help then its fine or if i can get some good ganks in im fine....but if my teammates are pushing too hard and needing ganks it becomes either a "fuck you" moment im trying to keep up in kevels....or "ok ill try to help" and i completely fall behind everyone...or thats how its been since ive been playing regularly again... [/quote] I suppose I could help, but not in this thread, mwahahahahah [/quote] where did i ask for help? I just mentioned how the jungle feels slow, unrewarding, and less appealing than it used to...thats not just the reduced exp but the gold too. I didnt see "help me" anywhere in there :-P [/quote] Strange, 'cause it sounds to me like you could use the help of someone who doesn't fall behind in levels Anyway for Jungle masteries with awarness you can go 0/9/21 for tanky champs and 14/0/16 for damage champs [/quote] Gotta experiment more in the jungle, so much versatility now.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]So, I would now use [[awareness]] if I am a jungler that heavily relies on lvl 4 ganks.([[amumu]] for example^^) Otherwise, well, not needed. But it can also speed you up.[/quote]