Mastery Havoc

[quote=Luther3000]You only take it on mages cause there's nothing better, not because it's good. I mean it's not [i]bad[/i] exactly but it's hard to justify taking it over other masteries on anything but AP.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=RaNuD] [quote=cooper56] Then why do 90% of guides on moba fire all say to get it as mage. Look at all top ones pretty much for majority of mages. Guess this is more reason for me to find another guide site its designed for lower elo. [/quote] Any form of guide whatsoever is meant for lower ELO. Higher ELO should know what to do... [/quote] No i know how play most mages but fact is when i first learned them i came here and looked at build and read through guide so i assumed havoc was good.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Luther3000] You only take it on mages cause there's nothing better, not because it's good. I mean it's not [i]bad[/i] exactly but it's hard to justify taking it over other masteries on anything but AP. [/quote] According to people on this forum 3 ad is better.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Debatable really, but it's quite valid to take 3 AD over 3 AP in the first tier. 3 AD is worth a [i]lot[/i] more gold than 3 AP, and you can still autoattack in lane on a mage. 3 AD - 3 extra damage on every autoattack. 3 AP - 3 extra damage on every spell, except it's not because very few champions have 1.0 AP scaling. It's more like 2 damage really. The AD helps with last hitting and really you're rarely ever using spells enough that +2 damage on them would make more difference than +3 on autoattacks.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Id rather take 2 AD then the +damage to minions mastery. Yay for lasthits![/quote]