Mid Champs?

[quote=Inferiae]Lux is incredibly fun to play, she's a complete glass cannon but the laser never gets old :)[/quote]

[quote=FluffyBeastCZ]Hi, I have pretty similar question, I'm focusing on mid lane and maining Ahri and I'm getting used to ranked games and draft pick, so I'm learning all about counterpicking and stuff. What would be your perfect mid champion counter set list? I mean counters to Ahri's counters. + Some other counters to often picked champions. I'm thinking about 5 champions. Like those "must haves" but not 2 similar champions.. I already have Ahri, Lux, TF, Ryze, Kennen and Akali (which I never played well) but you can post your general set list..[/quote]

[quote=The LZ]Well one counter to Ahri is Kassadin and a counter to him is Talon.[/quote]

[quote=wengthemeng][quote=FluffyBeastCZ] Hi, I have pretty similar question, I'm focusing on mid lane and maining Ahri and I'm getting used to ranked games and draft pick, so I'm learning all about counterpicking and stuff. What would be your perfect mid champion counter set list? I mean counters to Ahri's counters. + Some other counters to often picked champions. I'm thinking about 5 champions. Like those "must haves" but not 2 similar champions.. I already have Ahri, Lux, TF, Ryze, Kennen and Akali (which I never played well) but you can post your general set list.. [/quote] Somewhere in your list, I think you should include Gragas. He's a champion who can clear an entire wave with 1 Q, then leave and gank another. His gank potential is very strong since his E allows him to move faster and bypass some wards by going through walls. He counters other AP mids in the sense that he clears fast and ganks other opposing champions. He's my best AP mid.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I wouldn't say [[talon]] is a must-have mid champion because he's quite hard to master, and I assume you mean the mid champs that every player should learn to play. But as has been said, he counters most mid laners, so he's a good champion to pick up and learn how to play.[/quote]

[quote=Phil15][quote=wengthemeng] [quote=Phil15] ahri, karthus, morgana, zyra, galio, cassiopeai and maybe kassadin [/quote] I agree with all the champions listed here by Phil15 except for Kassadin. Kassadin can get shut down pretty easily. They're all very team compatible so you should experience with these few. Some mid champions that I find are quite difficult to HARD counter are Gragas and Swain, so maybe you should experiment with them as well! [/quote] Yeah thats why I putted maybe at kassadin. The problem with him is that he is just a counterpick to ap mid casters so if you are not last pick he can get countered by decent teams and same goes for talon[/quote]

[quote=Machineae][[Swain]] A strong pick, not the best over all but not too much wrong with him. Good sustain but can get shut down early if you don't play good with him. [[Ahri]] Strong, very mobile. Has nice sustain with passive+the almost obligatory revolver. [[Kassadin]] The previous insta-ban "anti-ap mid" that made idiot kids cry. He's a good champ just has a bad early game. Not strong until 6 IMO. [[Vladimir]] Very good champ that can also go top. Sustain is nice, shines late game the most. Strong AOE ult that amplifies your teams damage. [[Gragas]] Not really too popular any more. Not bad- just outclassed imo. Pretty bulky. [[Akali]] Assassin, not much else to say. Easy to stomp solo-q with her and she snowballs like mad. If you let her get a kill or two early on and you don't know how to counter her you're done. [[Fizz]] Fuck Fizz. Pole jumping, olympian asshole. [[Cassiopeia]] High risk, low reward. Don't use her. It only stomps in solo que. [[Karthus]] Strong pick, doesn't mind farming for 20 minutes and playing passive because of how well he scales well into the late game. Also- R2win [[Kennen]] Can win most lanes and go almost anywhere. Not much to say about it. [[LeBlanc]] Assassin that most people think is bad late game. She's a single target assassin. [[Twisted Fate]]Good champ to take charge of a solo-que team with and get kills early on. Strong early game and global pressure. 2lazy to add more[/quote]

[quote=Kazega][[Katarina]] is a tricky mid lane. Most times running her requires you to help you jungle gank so you can rake in more income faster. [[Diana]] is also viable for the same reasons. as far as "must haves" there are none. you play who you like as a mid lane. Knowing 2 or 3 very well is far greater than knowing them all moderately. Stick to your two that you mentioned, [[leblanc]] and [[veigar]] and learn to control them well. Then it won't matter who your opponent is because you know your champions enough to fight back[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]To add to Machineae's list (+rep on the fizz comment :D ) [[Anivia]] Very strong on teamfights, hard lane phase until you get used to her. Overall strong, might get people to do stupid stuff to kill you and get trolled by your passive (and killed by someone else) [[Orianna]] Currently VERY strong. High learning curve, but high reward. With one-two kills can zone tons of AP mids. [[Zyra]] Similar to Orianna in some points, albeit with a different zoning area and approach. I was going to make a list of counters and crap, but amidst it got bored coz it's too much work. Just use http://lolcounter.com/ and remember that picking a counter doesn't mean you're gonna wreck the lane.[/quote]

[quote=Clu Gulager][quote=FalseoGod] Just use http://lolcounter.com/ and remember that picking a counter doesn't mean you're gonna wreck the lane. [/quote] This list is great, thanks for posting.[/quote]