Patch 4.12 Blood Thirster / Essence Reaver and...

[quote=KatariFIRE]Forgive me if I am wrong... But does Riot over-buff [[Lucian]]? His range decrease from 550 to 500 is that fetal? More move speed. More Hp. More base damage. Q - [[Piercing Light]] buff, E - [[Relentless Pursuit]] buff, even his passive - [[Lightslinger]] got mechanically buff. ...................................................... [[The Bloodthirster]] Give you 20% lifesteal!!, in my opinion.. this seems huge!, is that mean this item now focus on sustain not AD? ...................................................... [[Essence Reaver]] Now has 80 AD as same as [[Infinity Edge]] and [[The Bloodthirster]], I am really interest in this Item right now, if I want to buy it as a core AD is it viable now? ...................................................... [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAg4y2co01M][/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][Img]http://www.vgcats.com/super/newsimage/slow.gif[/img][/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, both [[essence reaver]] and [[the bloodthirster]] are perfect for lucian. I also don't think he needs AS anymore, the dash always resets the AA anyway.[/quote]

[quote=FantasySniper]They over-buffed him. He has huge mobility to make up for his "lack of range". [[Essence Reaver]] works better in my opinion, he likes to spam his abilities for the flat CDR on his [[Relentless Pursuit]][/quote]

[quote=KatariFIRE]I used to rush [[Blade of the Ruined King]] on him. Still think that it is a good choice because more passive proc means more on-hit apply. Now that he use "E" more often, is that mean it's good to rush [[Sheen]] now?[/quote]

[quote=An Average Player]sheen will not be that viable. maybe it's better to spam now because his E is now an attack reset. players will now chain an w - aa - e - aa - q - aa in rapid successions. sheen has a 2 secs. CD. if you can kite then you have the privilege of utilizing your sheen if you are well protected. :)[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=An Average Player] sheen will not be that viable. maybe it's better to spam now because his E is now an attack reset. players will now chain an w - aa - e - aa - q - aa in rapid successions. sheen has a 2 secs. CD. if you can kite then you have the privilege of utilizing your sheen if you are well protected. :) [/quote] Sheen's still good on him, just like it was pre "nerf" If you're starting a combo with W, you're doing it wrong. E-AA-W/Q-AA-Q/W-AA-E-AA most damage easily with the E+passive reset.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]i wonder if frozen fist will become a thing on lucian now. The one thing that i can picture being more annoying than having someone dash everywhere, is having someone dashing everywhere, and nearly permaslowing your opponents[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=utopus] i wonder if frozen fist will become a thing on lucian now. The one thing that i can picture being more annoying than having someone dash everywhere, is having someone dashing everywhere, and nearly permaslowing your opponents [/quote] by Frozen fist do you mean [[Iceborn Gauntlet]]? I could see it become a thing but I think most people will settle just for the triforce since Essence Reaver will be giving him all the mana he needs. But then again the extra armor never hurts.[/quote]

[quote=FantasySniper][quote=Ninja Trigger] [quote=utopus] i wonder if frozen fist will become a thing on lucian now. The one thing that i can picture being more annoying than having someone dash everywhere, is having someone dashing everywhere, and nearly permaslowing your opponents [/quote] by Frozen fist do you mean [[Iceborn Gauntlet]]? I could see it become a thing but I think most people will settle just for the triforce since Essence Reaver will be giving him all the mana he needs. But then again the extra armor never hurts. [/quote] Blu Luc build incoming.[/quote]