Do you like TCG's?

[quote=Mooninites]I highly doubt it can compete with Magic the Gathering, it's probably the most respected card game created. Yu-gi-oh is also fairly respected despite the bad rap it can get from the TV show. I'm not exactly up-to-date on my yu-gi-oh but from my understanding it still has a niche fan base that plays. With Hearthstone coming out as the newest card game, I highly doubt this has a chance of surviving[/quote]

[quote=IShouldGetALife]I don't know why yugioh is hated, it is a decent game the only hing wrong with it is that the rules don't make as much sense as MTG and some of the newer cards are kinda retarded, there is still a niche fanbase, and there is a rather large subculture in my school of yugioh players.[/quote]

[quote=Jack Rubino]My bro's friend has a artifact magic deck that ended a game in less then about 5 turns. LOL[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=IShouldGetALife] I don't know why yugioh is hated, it is a decent game the only hing wrong with it is that the rules don't make as much sense as MTG and some of the newer cards are kinda retarded, there is still a niche fanbase, and there is a rather large subculture in my school of yugioh players. [/quote] One problem that Yu-gi-oh used to have was that card rarity was straight up proportional to how good a card was, so stuffing a deck full of rarer cards basically always resulted in a better deck. It was a problem with card design, since most TCGs have rarer cards being strictly more powerful and complex but not necessarily better. Take Magic, for instance; Wizards makes all rares more powerful than all commons, but not all rares are better than all commons. [quote=Jack Rubino] My bro's friend has a artifact magic deck that ended a game in less then about 5 turns. LOL [/quote] Oh gods, don't even get me started. Tolarian Academy (with the power nine) has at least a 50% first turn win chance. Flashhulk (before Flash went back on restriction) could win on the first turn's upkeep [i]when its opponent goes first[/i]. Dragonstorm decks back in Time Spiral block had an average win turn around 3, and could win as early as first turn. And strictly, in Time Spiral block, that only made Dragonstorm a fast deck, not an obscenely fast one. Recent MTG sets have been toning down the speed of the game, trying to make tournament level games take more turns. I don't play much any more, but I could really feel the difference in game speed between Innistrad block and Return to Ravnica block. Higher level MTG wasn't as much fun when you had to build a deck that needed to win, on average, on turn 5. Now that the average win turns are back to 6 and 7 for competitive decks, there's much more room for variance in deck building.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Jack Rubino] My bro's friend has a artifact magic deck that ended a game in less then about 5 turns. LOL [/quote] I've seen decks end on turn 1 and 2. It's sometimes really retarded.[/quote]