TOURNAMENT FINAL STREAM by DEWO a.k.a. Belenzor

[quote=Scrax]Very well. Congratulations on the tournament! :) I'll see you guys in the next tournament.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Poke me if you would like to play it when you are back anyway. I just hope (and Searz too eventho he hates me :P) that next and tbh 1st official MOBAFire tournament will be held in best of 3 style. gz on prize rageQUIT[/quote]

[quote=Bezerk]Thanks. We're looking forward to the next time when our paths come across. - Vince[/quote]

[quote=Shak3y]And ours... :D youse are lucky there was no bottom bracket :P Enjoy your vacation. See you next time[/quote]

[quote=Zel The Newbie][quote=DarkStriker] 1st. Heard of Ventrilo? We plan everything beforehand. That gank was planned no matter what because chogath was at top and normally has the upperhand against a squishy which was Ashe. 2nd. We had map control. Just 15 min in the game we had our side and THEIR side warded. We could easily find out everything at anytime. Sure we admit that DC issues is troubling but still it was only early game. We even had plans to competely ruin their jungle just to find out that their jungler DCed. On another note: Where do you get your experience from? Olaf jungle faster than Warwick. By the time he ganks, Warwick would have been at bottom getting ready to gank me(Taric) & Shen who were competely having lane control over Janna and Xin Zhao without any hp issues and all running skills ready and warded grass. If you ask me those statements are stupid and one-sided. We only took Chogath once for the DC by accident when Ashe discovered Chogath didnt retaliate on autoattack. Yourself have to admit that if that were to happen to you, wouldnt you go for it? [/quote] I'll just respond to this. Yes, I have heard of Ventrilo, don't talk down to me like I'm an idiot :) And you may have had plans to actually screw over the jungle, but you can't honestly tell me, that you had already planned to run hard into their jungle, before their jungle DC'd? I saw the chat saying "He'll be back" and a response was "Okay :)" or something. 1 minute later, you were inside their jungle. Maybe you would have initiated no matter what, but fact is that they were one man down, and you guys knew that. I can say that you had the upper hand with wards and map controle and what not, and you definitly had the game fully under controle, but to me that was due to the early game issues. Call me one-sited all you want, I just say what I see. If it happened to me, that I saw a guy who DC'd in a game, then sure I'd go for it. But in tournament final, public? Nah.. In all publicity, I'd say I probably wouldn't have gone for it, and just have shown sportsmanship. Especially if I'm playing Ashe against a Cho'Gath in a 1v1. Then again, that's just me, and this is just my opinions. Congrats on your victory, a shame the match wasn't as good as it should have been.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Ok since tournament has ended (unfortunatly) i am moving this back to the place it belongs.[/quote]

[quote=Bezerk][quote=Zel The Newbie] I'll just respond to this. Yes, I have heard of Ventrilo, don't talk down to me like I'm an idiot :) And you may have had plans to actually screw over the jungle, but you can't honestly tell me, that you had already planned to run hard into their jungle, before their jungle DC'd? I saw the chat saying "He'll be back" and a response was "Okay :)" or something.[b] 1 minute later, you were inside their jungle.[/b] Maybe you would have initiated no matter what, but fact is that they were one man down, and you guys knew that. I can say that you had the upper hand with wards and map controle and what not, and you definitly had the game fully under controle, but to me that was due to the early game issues. Call me one-sited all you want, I just say what I see. If it happened to me, that I saw a guy who DC'd in a game, then sure I'd go for it. But in tournament final, public? Nah.. In all publicity, I'd say I probably wouldn't have gone for it, and just have shown sportsmanship. Especially if I'm playing Ashe against a Cho'Gath in a 1v1. Then again, that's just me, and this is just my opinions. Congrats on your victory, a shame the match wasn't as good as it should have been. [/quote] Just gotta answer to this accusation. 1 minute later we were in his jungle? If you saw the stream then you would know they protected me at our blue. Afterwards I was jungling for about 4 mins to gank chogath top. By the time I got to enemy blue, ww was already back(which was not even right after the gank). Imo he should have gone laned with chogath to get his lvl in order to jungle later on in the game, instead he went into jungle, which was his choice. As I mentioned before, if error 401 asked for a restart because of the dc, we would have no reason to say no to that offer. But the fact is they didn't. The game is now over and so leave it be, this is a matter between RageQ & Error and we worked it out. The match will be played later on when both team have the time.I respect your point of view but tbh, atleast get your facts right. - Vince[/quote]

[quote=DarkStriker]So does anyone have a replay of the whole match from the 401 team =)? We had the intentions to record, but forgot =/[/quote]

[quote=Canoas][quote=Bezerk] Just gotta answer to this accusation. 1 minute later we were in his jungle? If you saw the stream then you would know they protected me at our blue. Afterwards I was jungling for about 4 mins to gank chogath top. By the time I got to enemy blue, ww was already back(which was not even right after the gank). Imo he should have gone laned with chogath to get his lvl in order to jungle later on in the game, instead he went into jungle, which was his choice. As I mentioned before, if error 401 asked for a restart because of the dc, we would have no reason to say no to that offer. But the fact is they didn't. The game is now over and so leave it be, this is a matter between RageQ & Error and we worked it out. The match will be played later on when both team have the time.I respect your point of view but tbh, atleast get your facts right. - Vince [/quote] You could have also asked for a restart in order to have a fair match. Don't get butthurt if the people watching decided that you did not win fairly, which you didn't. If it was my team-mate who got DC I wouldn't have asked to restart either, at least I don't like to beg when I'm at a disadvantage because that's just not right. If it was my enemy though, I would have offered a restart since it's the right thing to do. Again, you knew what had happened and the consequences of not offering a restart. You decided to go for the easy win and get the prize, so live with it.[/quote]

[quote=Zel The Newbie][quote=Bezerk] Just gotta answer to this accusation. 1 minute later we were in his jungle? If you saw the stream then you would know they protected me at our blue.[/quote] Yup, I saw the stream. It was from their point of view. It may have been your first plan to protect at blue, but blue hadn't spawned before you guys attacked.. All I know is, that I saw a disconnect, and perhaps less than a minute later, you were going in for first blood teamfight, despite knowing that they were only 4 there. I know what I saw. [quote=Bezerk]As I mentioned before, if error 401 asked for a restart because of the dc, we would have no reason to say no to that offer. But the fact is they didn't. The game is now over and so leave it be, this is a matter between RageQ & Error and we worked it out. The match will be played later on when both team have the time.I respect your point of view but tbh, atleast get your facts right. [/quote] I've got my facts from what I saw in that game, and I'm glad you worked it out. But like mentioned by Canoas, no one would beg for a restart. It's a matter of manners, and sure they could've asked for that, but you could also have offered it. That's just how it is. I'm looking forward to the rematch, I'm sure it'll be good :)[/quote]