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Cataclysm: Buff maybe?

Creator: Babit July 25, 2011 9:17pm
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o_q One of the most useless ults? You're obviously doing something wrong.
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@Babit: Of the 79 champions in the game at the moment, only 31 of them have any possible way of getting out of your ultimate without popping Flash. And this is assuming best case scenario.

Of those 31 characters, Warwick, Urgot, Twisted Fate, Nocturne, Malphite, and Fiddlesticks all have to use their ultimates. Three of these are easily disrupted channeled ults. Also Kassadin and Akali, but their ults are on so low of a CD that it doesn't matter.

Of the remaining 25 characters, Akali, Alistar, Amumu, Irelia, Jax, Katarina, Lee Sin, Leona, Master Yi, Maokai, Pantheon, Poppy, and Xin Zhao all must target one of your allies to escape, meaning that if you're initiating fights as you should be, you're forcing the enemy into staying in your ult, waiting for your team to catch up, or to use a spell to dash further into your team, meaning death.

So there are only 12 characters that have a non-ultimate, non-target means of escaping your ultimate easily: Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Jarvan, Kassadin, LeBlanc, Nidalee, Renekton, Shaco, Shen, Tristana, Tryndamere.

You don't really care about trapping other Jarvan, Renekton, or Shen.
You can't catch a Shaco and he's terrible in teamfights.
You can't catch Nidalee anyway.
If you think you can trap a Kassadin with anyone's ultimate then you've got a problem.

In summary, the main characters you're going to actually have to worry about on that list are the AD carries - Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, and Tristana. Notice something about their escape spells? They're all on high cooldowns. If you've forced them to pop their only escape spell bar Flash just because you ulted, it's pretty much worth it.

And on any other champion, they either have to stay in or Flash to get out, and ultimate for a flash is always worth it.

Was THAT comprehensive enough for you?
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Babit wrote:

So you end up just being caught in your own arena and still dying. (even 1v1)


You can take way the arena by pressing R again.
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If this happened Jarvan would be super duper OP.

He's pretty boarderline OP as it is...
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Besides, if you're not able to teleport out of his ulti anyways wouldn't that mena he gets a free kill everytime his ulti is off cd?
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kaas wrote:

Besides, if you're not able to teleport out of his ulti anyways wouldn't that mena he gets a free kill everytime his ulti is off cd?


That's pretty much how it is now, but as long as Jarvan isn't alone.
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@Babit: Of the 79 champions in the game at the moment, only 31 of them have any possible way of getting out of your ultimate without popping Flash. And this is assuming best case scenario.

Of those 31 characters, Warwick, Urgot, Twisted Fate, Nocturne, Malphite, and Fiddlesticks all have to use their ultimates. Three of these are easily disrupted channeled ults. Also Kassadin and Akali, but their ults are on so low of a CD that it doesn't matter.

Of the remaining 25 characters, Akali, Alistar, Amumu, Irelia, Jax, Katarina, Lee Sin, Leona, Master Yi, Maokai, Pantheon, Poppy, and Xin Zhao all must target one of your allies to escape, meaning that if you're initiating fights as you should be, you're forcing the enemy into staying in your ult, waiting for your team to catch up, or to use a spell to dash further into your team, meaning death.

So there are only 12 characters that have a non-ultimate, non-target means of escaping your ultimate easily: Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Jarvan, Kassadin, LeBlanc, Nidalee, Renekton, Shaco, Shen, Tristana, Tryndamere.

You don't really care about trapping other Jarvan, Renekton, or Shen.
You can't catch a Shaco and he's terrible in teamfights.
You can't catch Nidalee anyway.
If you think you can trap a Kassadin with anyone's ultimate then you've got a problem.

In summary, the main characters you're going to actually have to worry about on that list are the AD carries - Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, and Tristana. Notice something about their escape spells? They're all on high cooldowns. If you've forced them to pop their only escape spell bar Flash just because you ulted, it's pretty much worth it.

And on any other champion, they either have to stay in or Flash to get out, and ultimate for a flash is always worth it.

Was THAT comprehensive enough for you?


Wow, nice ***** slap Azn man.
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methinks babit doesn't really know how to use the ult
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Another disadvantage is that Vayne and Poppy can stun you.
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lol seriously?

His ulti is useless?

Obviously your playing jarvan wrong. Very wrong.....
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