Tryndamere CrD

[quote=Skeec]Okay lets compare Tryndamere pre-patch and now on lvl 1 I always skill his e first so pre-patch I would have 40% crit chance ( crit chance runepage ) And now I play him on Crit Damage ( 46% only trough the runepage ) Crit Chance is 45% including 100 Fury Masteries and the crit item 8% crit I think its easy to hold the fury bar up, but my question in the end would be if I say I have 100% crit chance would Crit Damage be superior over mixed till full ArPen Runepage Thanks in advance Noil[/quote]

[quote=Mofolycs]I'd say go ArPen runes and get an Infinity Edge. If somebody would like to add some math to this question it would be much appreciated. Edit: It seems the general population would choose ArP over CrD.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]To paraphrase Searz: "Flat AD runes are always superior to CrD." So I guess run flat AD marks and quints, or ArP marks and AD quints.[/quote]

[quote=Skeec]As far as I know Crit Damage is always better than ArPen supposed you Crit to 100% I did a simple math I calculate Last Whisper so this is my only Pen Item 100 Armor -15 ( marks ) -40% ( Last Whisper ) = 51 100 Armor -40% s.a. = 60 9 effective ArPen so 6 ArPen are worthless correct my if I'm wrong Yours Skeec[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]I don't have the maths handy, but I'm 99% sure that ArP are much better for both when you crit and when you don't. CrC runes used to be the best choice for Tryndamere, not sure about now, but CrD are essentially useless, I'm sure of that.[/quote]

[quote=Skeec]Early and late game? Or is there a point where something overweights?[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Nope. If you have 1% CrC or if you have 100%, CrD is worse all the way through.[/quote]

[quote=Skeec]Equal on which amount of armor?[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]I'm sure someone can do the maths, but considering ArP marks/quints/masteries gives you 36 ArP, it will be somewhere between 10-30 I'd imagine, however, nobody has that low armour, and at level 1, where the lowest armour is 12 afaik (Fiddlesticks, iirc), you're not going to have almost any CrC with a CrD runepage, so that argument is irrelevant. In any case though, I'm pretty sure AD runes are better than CrD runes in any and every circumstance, but ArP are even better. Edit: This means you don't need a Last Whisper too, it's only a core item on Tryndamere when you have CrC runes, which you should. Factoring in a LW to the maths is silly when it's not required until they have a LOT of armour when using ArP runes. By the time you get one I still think ArP would be better than CrD even if you do build him normally, but I can't say I have maths that backs that up.[/quote]

[quote=Skeec]AD is just plain stupid for dps ArPen is always better and i dont have none CrC they changed tryn you have 45% crit chance on lvl 1 with no runepage I tested on Golem with lvl 1 41% CrD 5,89% CDR ( dont have CrD in Glyphs) = 144 Dmg 23 ArPen 9,3% CrD 5,89 CDR = 149 Dmg but I dunno if its straight through higher or how it is when I get Last Whisper[/quote]